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"The bags back on the road and read it's real good passport. Amateur Traveler episode six hundred and eighty four today. The amateur traveler talks about museums and memorials and markets. It's parks palaces and a wall as we go to Berlin Germany amateur traveler. I'm your host Chris Christianson. Let's talk about Berlin I. I'd like to welcome the show. Audrey Scott and Daniel knoll from an cornered market DOT COM or at welcome back to the show I should say and we brought Audrey and and Daniel back to talk about Berlin Germany Audrey and Daniel Welcome back to the show. Thanks for having us back and I say welcome back to the show but I. I don't know if I could come up with all the Times you've been the show. We certainly done wonderful episodes together on prog and Bangladesh are the two that really stand out for me. I think there may maybe some other ones and there certainly some this. We can travels in there also but I put a list of all the shows they have been on in the show notes so we don't have to waste time with that but we have not covered Berlin Lynn Germany in quite a long time. I was really surprised how long it had been more than a decade since we've talked about a rather rapidly changing city Berlin has changed a lot lot since we covered it the first time in the show for sure and you guys happened to live there now. Yeah we've actually called Berlin are home now for about seven years. It's hard to believe Aleve and even within that time it's changed quite a lot so if we go back over a decade yeah. There's been a lot of changes well so this seemed like a really good excuse to have two of my favorite guests back on the show. Why should someone think about going to Berlin? Well it it certainly seems to be enjoying an another up surgeon ovulating. Correct me if I'm wrong on the statistics. I think it's the third most popular destination in Europe. And it's interesting because Berlin on the surface is is not a traditional European destination meaning. It doesn't have preserved old town like Prague Nick or even like many of the other incredible credible cities in Europe but when it has a has its dynamism feel to it and creativity and energy and so people don't really come to Berlin to see Z.. Beautiful old buildings there are still a few that remain. There's obviously really interesting history here but it's more for its creative field for its neighborhoods spor. There's also has a really big party scene for those who like clubbing. It's more about the feel of the place will. Then I think the other two most popular cities than would would be London and Paris. I believe you're talking about and compared to the two of them it's also had a reputation for being less expensive low. I don't know if that's still true. I think Jewish rush to a great degree. It is having just visited London. I think we can. We can vouch for that London. Right still a great city but yeah so yes certainly your dollar euro or whatever you can be carrying goes a little bit further and I think it's just a different city. Virginia from what Adriana said before I think when people come away their struck with the difficulty to articulate why Berlin sticks with them in a way that it does in the word they often use five. I love the divider that city. Such an interesting vibe that the atmosphere and I think a lot of s to do with the fact that religion is in a constant state of Flux Fox and perhaps in a constant state of Renaissance reimagining itself will in you mention concentrate of luck so the first time I was in Berlin. We've talked about this on. The show was a year after the wall fell and the the heart of the city. The center of the activity was Kurfurstendamm. Turn down on the western side and you could still see the bullet holes in the walls on. What was East Germany? You could hardly find any trace of the wall but you wouldn't meet. You didn't need it to tell what had been East. Germany was still fairly drab on that side of in a lot of the buildings and things I think the the last time I was back in a completely flipped the vibrant activity was where it traditionally was in the eastern part of the city buttered standard that continues continues to change since I have been there. Yeah I mean. The city is constantly changing in Berlin is a very neighborhood focused city so the neighborhoods are always experience in different levels of renaissance also in their hip when they're not hit but for especially after the wall fell East Berlin. What was formerly east? Berlin was the hub hub for heart for artists and the mayor actually was rather smart. He said we have all these really big industrial buildings. We have all this space and actually opened up four artists for basically like squatter communities and art studios and stuff and so that attracted a lot of artists in creative types to the city in. So you still feel let today but some of the traditional areas where that was like Mitte has now become a bit too expensive a little bit too gentrified now. Those artists communities are going a little bit more. Let's say towards the edges where there still is available space will emit a would be middle so literally the middle of the city. Yeah it's the middle of the city but it was the heart of former East Berlin and all the neighborhoods have changed quite a bit like we live in Nikon in the south and our neighborhood. We talked to Berliners who grew up appear in their thirties forties. Saying when I was young you never went there. That was considered a bad place to go. Someone joked it was like the Harlem like in the bad days but but now it's a vibrant community. We've got museums and galleries. But also it's still has this connection to its roots. which is a worker community as as well as an immigrant community? So it's this interesting dynamic between a little bit of gentrification which is a big issue in Berlin right now but it still has its soul in terms of the working man every day. Many hood is well excellent. Well let's start to put some structure on. That's what kind of itinerary would you recommend for someone who's coming to Berlin especially for the first time time. Okay well that really depends on the number of day. Well let's target. Let's talk about a week for Berlin and day trips from Berlin. I think the first piece of advice that we might give to. Someone has to understand that Berlin. Is I believe approximately three hundred sixty miles square miles in terms of landmass. So you're not gonna be able to cover the entire city so I think the trick is to figure out what are the core elements that you'd like to see in Berlin East and west and then maybe to identify a a couple of non-core that are out there in some of the neighborhoods so in terms of some of the usual suspects in. You're looking at things like checkpoint Charlie in the Checkpoint Charlie Museum which definitely definitely a although it is touristy at something that we often recommend to people particularly on those days that are not good weather days at the museum. Actual checkpoint appoint Charlotte's it's rather touristy and people are posing for photos but the museum is actually it's a private initiative and it has all sorts of stories and photos of life rush when the wall was up as well as stories of escape. And it's quite well done. Well let's dig into that a little more so checkpoint Charlie one of the famous checkpoints between East in West Berlin. There's the little guardhouse there which is a reconstruction because they tore down the guardhouse ray quickly after they down the wall and then realized Oh hey we we have this wonderful memorable spot so they. They built it back up again but the checkpoint Charlie Museum was there during the time of the wall all and it started as a private collection of memorabilia about escapes predominantly from Berlin and. I think it's a fascinating museum Ziam. Although I would have to say the last time I was there. It had a feel of grandma's attic in terms of organization. I don't know if that has changed. Excel Excel J. One of the most amazing wonderful collections. So hazardously arranged but you can see where someone took a surfboard. Gordon holiday it out so they could put people inside or cars with secret. Compartments were people who made balloons to fly over the wall. It's a fascinating collection especially in terms of Cold War. History doesn't Nice job of addressing cold order history from the stamp on Berlin that it also digs into some of the Cold War history elsewhere so with over revolution in Prague so the rising Hungary so it provides a broader context. Not just what happened here in Berlin which I think is really really Nice Josh. Not Quite as my favorite in terms of organization as the CA- Museum of Communism in Prague but still amazing and great museum."