Scientist, Mrs Kelly, Peter Kalmus discussed on Two Broads Talking Politics


Are you? Heavyweight MRs Kelly with two brads talking politics where continuing with hours series on climate change. I'm with my co-host. Sophie. Hey, sophie. Hey, Kelly and joining us today as Peter Kalmus who is a climate change scientists and is the author of being the change live. Well, spark a climate revolution. Hi, peter. Thanks for having me on. Yeah. Thanks much for joining us. So just for some background could you tell us a little bit about what you do and how this book came about. So I've scientist I study mainly clouds I'm getting into what's called ecological forecasting, which the way I describe it as connecting climate models to like actual living ecosystems and trying to project holiday we'll change in becoming decades as a planet gets warmer. I've been a climate scientists since about twenty twelve and before that I was a an astrophysicist searching for gravitation. Ways. But I was getting more and more concerned about climate change in reading science more and reading paper bar and basically getting incredibly acted by climate breakdown. And what I see as a lot of scientific sort of evidence. Backing this what I see as the greatest threat facing humanity right now. So feel a little weird to be thinking about supernova and neutron stars on the other side of the galaxy. When there's a whole lot of stuff to be done here and to understand and to kind of try to get people to act on climate change. And so I switched field. And the reason the book came about was because you know, I've I've been super concerned since two thousand and six so it was when I was getting my teach teams in New York. And you know, I kept thinking what can I do? 'cause it's so overwhelming, and it's a global problem, and there's almost eight billion of us now. And so so it's just questioning like how can I like, no, I can't fix it myself. But what can I? What can I do with what I have to to have the biggest possible effects and to address the problem as skillfully as possible? And I was this was like around two thousand ten I was looking around for other people who were answering that question, and I wasn't finding a whole lot of stuff that was satisfying. And I was also exploring using less fuel myself 'cause it's sort of an obvious thing to do. I'm like, I see the harm that burning stuff causes really does cause harm. I made that connection and I'm like, well, then it'd be really weird. If if I'm still about this if I didn't try to start burning less, and naturally, you know, I wanted to bring less I just don't want to cause harm. And so that kind of became like a core Acton for me. And I started to realize when I give talks to the public people in my community talks our range by like transition or citizens climate lobby people really responded. Well to the fact that I was like actually making these changes. They were really curious about it. And so I realized that I had a more powerful voice in a more authentic voice when I was actually examining this part of my life and making these changes in sort of. And that kind of turn into the book because they're surprising thing. I found was wasn't making me happy. It really didn't feel like a sacrifice. I mean, it was different the changes I was making. But you know, the prevailing message was that their life gonna suck with fossil fuel. And I was like actually a lot of ways life, better hustle feel. So that led to the book because I wasn't seeing that message getting out. So many people, you know, say things like well, individual actions don't matter as much as you know, what government does would business does. So why why did you decide to focus on individual actions with the great question and has been walking out. It's become more and more clear that two categories are sort of non existent. It's an illusion that there's a separation between what we call individual chains. And where we call collectors, there's no sharp thinking so to you. I think most people are -ssume that the reason someone like me or the reason I reduce my missions is to keep the CO two out of that. Or that's not actually why at all. Because if that was why would doing it. It'd be totally depressing. Because like I said, there's almost eight billion people..

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