John Childs, Brian Gusty, Tim Reynolds discussed on Evidence In Motion Clinical
The E. M. Clinical podcast. My name is John Childs and I'm joined as always by my illustrious co host Dr Mark Sheppard and and we have the privilege today of doing something a little bit different on the podcast. We're being joined today by two physical therapists Brian. Guskey and Tim Reynolds. Both relatively in recent graduates graduated from bt school about five years ago and they reached out to me several weeks ago and are working on a project really trying to collate and curate responses from those who've may be you know had some impact on the profession sort of movers. Shakers whatever you WANNA call it leaders in the field and so are conducting a number of different interviews and written responses and so we thought wow. Why don't we use this as an opportunity to have them jump on the show and perhaps interview mark and I rather than the traditional national way that we typically do it so without further ado? Just want to introduce both Brian and Tim. And if you don't mind start off telling us a little bit about the project you're working on and then we'll dive in that great. Thanks John so Brian Gusty here as he said Jonathan Practicing for about five years now currently reside in Rochester New York working with University of Rochester Medical Center treating in outpatient orthopedics just to give a little background on China are Y and you know how he got started with this this book call years ago Kinda proposed this project to ten we kind of kicked it around. It was a pretty good idea man. You know this this year. I'm not sure what what sparked that. I think we both got put in a position where we're getting has a lot of questions. Kyle guiding students as part of the residency program program. Here at the university. Getting ask questions of you know goals and how to stay motivated and you know what are things that we like to read. How do we stay engaged with profession? So Tim and I both reflected on this idea for a book of reaching out to our own leaders and mentors and different thought leaders and innovators within our profession an SM similar questions that we were being asked so that's kind of how he got started on it and then again like I said not sure what sparked it but as of maybe three months ago the one we kinda started sending out emails and doing interviews setting up digital interviews receives awesome feedback when we first out our introductory the email kind of talking about the book see people are interested was like shot in the dark. We both know what kind of feedback we were GONNA get or if we're going to get any response so John you when you replied to to use any email you responded. We were like Oh my dad like John. I hope this is actually. We started getting a ton of good feedback in a bunch support. So it's been really rewarding so far working on this project so we're excited to be here with you today and an Esa you know some of the clashes or asking a bunch a AH leaders within our field. Tim has anything anything else to say about that or about our why we got started. Yeah definitely my name. Is Tim Reynolds. I'm located Ithaca New York Mark. I'm a physical therapist with wellness center. I'm a full time. Clinical Faculty member at Ithaca College well and sort of carry on with what Ryan said. There are so many really talented knowledgeable physical therapists and researchers within our profession that are contributing so much work to the betterment of our profession. Shen as a whole and I think you can go online. You can find out. What are these awesome exercises which we'd be trying to patients with back pain or persistent pain and I think that provides a lot of good knowledge and education for young clinician editions? Right now there's some questions that typically don't get asked I and Brian and I when we sat down and we were trying to generate lists of questions in. Who Do we want to interview? We want to know the why. And the what makes the people we really respect. And who are the leaders in this field and so what are the habits that have helped them develop to become the people that they are and what other things. Outside right of learning humanity techniques or learning different exercises could potentially contribute to making the whole cohort of this upcoming PT generation better quality people and clinicians themselves. Awesome will appreciate that background. And I guess I'M GONNA WE'RE GONNA turn it over to you guys and let you run the show. Go ahead awesome awesome so John the first question is for you. What advice would you give to a smart driven college student about to enter the quote unquote real world? And what advice. I should ignore. Yeah it's a great question and I will confess I think about this question now in a very personal way because I've got five children total but got one that's recently married eight and Now Working Graduate From College. I've got another one who's in college and then I've got a fifteen year old son. You know in some younger kids. So like I've got got kids with editor sort of wanting and perhaps benefiting from whatever kind of advice that I might have so this is like a real world full mid for me not hypothetical I think one of the biggest things I sort of encourage in. Try to advise students that when you go to college and you start thinking about entering the real world you know. There's no longer any participation Tirupati trophies. I think we do kids. This is could get on the soapbox. I think we'd do kids are a disservice when we don't really teach them about winning and losing and you know somehow wow this idea that everybody wins is just not true. I mean when you go to college in you compete for jobs. Some people get the job. Some people don't some people move up the career our ladder. Some people. Don't don't get me wrong. I don't see the world is purely winning and losing but you've got to add value to the organization to ultimately have Success at least if you think about success in terms of advancing your career growing in your knowledge and ultimately you know adding value so I think that's one one of the things I really try to encourage people to maybe think about sooner rather than later is that the real world can be really rough and if if you know if your parents sort of overly protect you from and sort of give you this idea that you know I think one of the worst pieces of advice that I tell people to ignore ignore this idea the That you know you can just do anything you want right and I know parents are well intended when they tell their kids this but the reality is if you're five foot seven you're never we're going to play in the NBA. You're just not it doesn't matter it doesn't matter. You don't have the genetics to do it so actually think we need to crush people's dreams at some point so they don't get distracted down the rabbit holes. You've got to really think about you know where your talents are and what. You're actually good at again. This idea that. Just sort of Willy Nilly follow all your passion and it's great if you can actually really love what you're doing. Don't misunderstand me passion is wonderful but ultimately you've gotTa have passion combined with you know something that you're good at and talented at and can ultimately make a living and you know along with that is you know. Don't get into massive sorts of student debt. we all are well aware of those sorts of issues you know. Education is a great investment. But it's not such a good investment that you should spend your you know to to go into debt for the rest of your life to achieve so those those are just a few of the things at least that I think about a relative to this question. Yeah it's awesome answer. John I completely agree. I have one Kinda just brief L. Question I think he kind of answered but I think the one thing that a lot of students or younger professionals heavily but have conflict with is following their strengths and talents verses following their passion and you talked about value and adding value in terms being used a lot more throughout our profession now both both combat large in our profession but also on the individual level so for a younger therapist. Would you recommend maybe finding out new kind of self analysis on your strengths and talents. Would you recommend following their passion in terms of adding more value to their company or clinic. Or what have you. Yeah I tend to think about it more trying to really identify your strengths and what you're good at and let that be sort of the litmus test for the direction that you go if you're the effective at what you do your talented at what you do you have sort of a camaraderie and feedback of your team. That you know believes your evaluated you you know. Value added member of the team. I think that ultimately ties to you know to passion into you know really enjoying what you do you know. We're we're all well aware of the starving sorts of artists in starving musicians in those sorts of things where they pursue these like pie in the Sky Dreams for ten years and then finally in their early to mid thirties. You know realize they've got to grow up and make a living and again. It's a fine line right because you know one out of every thousand. Listen you know Aspiring country music artists. That moved to Nashville. Actually make it right. So there's there's sort of this this hope but but oftentimes it's really not a a realistic venture so at least for my own in our. At least the way I talk about it with my kids is trying to find something you really good at earn a living and then once like you've gotten atten certain amount of you know sort of income under your belt so to speak you can really then afford to take some risks in quote unquote pursue your dreams. I think people like you know all these Unicorn companies you know. Everybody thinks they're going to be the facebook twitter or the AIRBNB. And you know that is just us not. That's not realistic. That is not what happens. That ninety percent of businesses it start fail. The message is a lot more sinister than that. And it's super super hard. So I I take issue sometimes with the kind of the GIG economy where you see a lot of this in PT. Now you know where you know. Go out bill. The cash based practice you know and all those sorts of in at least everybody. I know who's in a cash based practice. They have second and third jobs. I don't understand that like that's just my bias. I think you ought to it really go into an organization add value find something. You're good at learn the ropes so to speak and then at a certain point you can afford kind of look look up a bit and maybe take some risk that you otherwise wouldn't have taken so that's a little bit of a bully pulpit but that's how I sort of see now. That's that's a great answer. I completely agree ten. You want to jump into the next question. I think. The next one's for mark. Yeah no definitely and SORTA continuing on with what John Is. Talking died octopus students frequently and I asked them what their why like. Why are you here? Why are you sitting in this class? What what's your? What's your intrinsic motivation to inspire you to come Robin show up and studying all sort of stuff because of your experience but the the spoon fed generation of I want the answers to the test? I want to know exactly exactly what's on. It has definitely made academia my end a little bit more challenging the last couple of years and so too here in reinforced. Those ideas of now you gotTa Find Your Passion and and figure out. What are you good at? So that you can pursue that till allow that to become your career choice versus me trying to talk his division. Three athletes out does going to the. NFL is always fun..