IBS, Cleveland Clinic, Crohn discussed on Real Talk with Dana | Nutrition, Health
Travel with them if they have to be refrigerated. The easy answer to that last question is trouble with ones that are soil base that don't view to be refrigerated so like I mentioned before soil based probiotics are generally shelf stable and strong enough to pass through the stomach to the small intestine and without being damaged which is great so there are certain non soil based probiotics that at extremely high potencies definitely need to be refrigerated to maintain retain that prudency like okay imagine if you're shelling out which some people do a hundred dollars or more on a bottle of probiotics if it tells you to refrigerate that thing or honestly even even if it doesn't I probably would just because I just shelled out a bunch of cash on that thing and I don't want anything like heat to damage it or light or anything like that so refrigeration indefinitely extend shelf-life so if you have one bottle for a couple of months or you have that really expensive one you may want to refrigerate it other raw probiotic cultures like those from the bread garden of life advertise that they have to be kept refrigerated to ensure potency Z so that way. The company says that they can guarantee the potency is the same from the moment is packaged to the moment it hits your tongue but here's my question they don't say say and this isn't just garden of life this a lot of things they don't say until it hits your small intestine which is where where the probiotics are working so what happens after quote the moment it hits your tongue. Does it actually survive the stomach. I'm honestly we still looking for a solid resounding yes or no for non soil based probiotics because according to the Cleveland Clinic there are specific strands of probiotics that are very a fragile and should be refrigerated because they're sensitive to light heat moisture and oxygen which could damage the viability of those probiotics before they even get to the small intestine so the specific strands of these which you might recognize our try and go slow here so you can hear me. lactobacillus acid awful is commonly found in Yogurt lactobacillus Keiser locher from pronouncing that right bifida bacterium. Betham bifida bacterium adolescent listen tees. Yes it definitely looks like adolescence. bifida bacteria umbrella bitter bacteria and long and SACCHAROMYCES. Bul Artie so these provide extremes according to the Cleveland Clinic need to be refrigerated so that they remain viable until they're consumed and until the person can derive full benefit from them so always check your labels to see if your probiotics need to be refrigerated but refrigerated does not necessarily mean that they are better so so Dr Vincent Pedra which I hope I'm pronouncing his name right. He's a good health specialist and the author of happy. Gut He explained in an interview with Crohn's dot com that probiotic supplements are tested to ensure that they maintain potency through their expiration. Dave regardless of whether or not they're shelf stable or meant to be refrigerated in other other words. A probiotic billed as containing fifty billion. CF You might leave the factory with two hundred billion CFU's some of which are expected to die off over time so while refrigeration may slow down the loss of the live active cultures and probiotic supplements shelf stable probiotic should have enough culture is is to stay fresh at least through the expiration date on the bottle so he also argues that probiotics requiring refrigeration may actually be less effective than the ones. Let's say they should be refrigerated and I've also heard this from a few other sources including the sponsor of the podcast day before I ever agreed to work with them so they say that if if the culture's can't survive at room temperature in the grocery store. How are they going to survive the ninety eight point six degree internal temperature of our bodies. Let let alone a Ph of one point three in the stomach so I for one would love to see more research on this again. There's evidence on both sides. I'm not sure what the answer is. So then what about soil versus spore based probiotics so spore forming or ground based probiotics that are not soil based. Maybe more effective than others because the endo spores beating spore based that either encapsulate or protect the strains are highly resistant to the Ph of the stomach acid acid- which may result in a higher delivery output of the probiotics to the small intestine again more research to be done here too. I'm sorry if this podcast is confusing. You guys is more than giving you know man. I totally understand if you need a pause this podcast at any point and take a break and take your dog dog for a walk and not listened to all of this scientific stuff however I am going to create this as a blog post also gonNA post all all of this stuff in the show notes so you guys will have it too so you can always come back to it and heck you can always pause the podcasts and come back so then what about probiotic supplements versus probiotic had a cruise and fermented foods is getting probiotics from your food enough. it depends I would say for a generally a healthy person. Yes it is enough to get probiotics from foods except with certain health conditions or times in your life when your gut needs a little bit more health see above above with the like thirty different health conditions that I listed off and my other question which I haven't been able of find the answer to is the there's been a trend in the past couple of years especially because I go to natural products expo of a lot of companies pudding probiotics like in their snack foods so they're basically becoming processed foods even if they're healthier quote healthier processed foods foods with probiotic ingredients so then my question is does that even matter like do the probiotics even survive in the processing. Maybe maybe what they're putting on. The labels of the packages is like the probiotics thought exist at the beginning of processing but then what about the end and what about this shelf life what about when you actually eat them. Sometimes I say to my clients like if you're not absorbing your supplements. You're basically creating expensive. P and I wonder if this this is the same kind of scenario because if these companies are charging you more because it says there are probiotics in these foods on the label say chips or bars or whatever it is are they actually just creating more expensive processed food. That's not actually delivering the health benefits that they say could. I don't know the answer to that. Okay we are getting to the end here on probiotics and then I have a couple of random questions. So how can you find research providing providing probiotics targeted towards certain health conditions for example how to find reliable info and what kinds of probiotics take for anxiety so couple of different directions you going going here. I would recommend looking on pubmed if you know how to read research studies and look for Meta analysis or Meta analyses not single research studies studies so then you'd be able to see a compilation of a bunch of different studies to see if they've been able to come to generalize conclusion of Yes. All of these studies have have shown that this probiotic is beneficial for anxiety and the should usually tell you exactly the genus the strain and all of those three names and then they should also probably tell you a dosage but you can also do is fine specialist that focuses on gut health and the fill in the blank health condition that you are dealing with so for example if you're looking for someone who specializes in anxiety you wanna look for someone who specializes in got got health and anxiety because really if they're nutrition practitioner that specializes in anxiety they should also be a specialist gut health because there's such a huge connection between the two with the gut brain connection the other thing that you can do just in general is a couple of good resources are Chris Kreider Chris Master John the Paleo mom mom she talks about probiotics auto immunity a couple of books like The microbiome solution with Dr Robin Chonkin and a good general at health book kind of like a get started guide is go with your gut by Robin Utilise who is an institute for Integrative Nutrition graduate. Okay next question do I suggest pre three and probiotics for IBS or irritable Bowel Syndrome. Yes so there are a bunch of different kinds. IBS is probably the most frequently frequently studied health condition in which probiotics are very helpful and it's been shown in many many studies probably thousands of this point the specific strands of probiotics can be very helpful for diarrhea constipation alternating all different kinds of IBS. Here's the thing though is with IBS. You WanNa be really careful with prebiotics because if you have diarrhea dominant ibs it's usually a male absorption issue. PREBIOTICS can actually make the problem worse if however you have constipation not dominant. IBS prebiotics may actually be helpful with a combination the nation of drinking more water eating more healthy fats that basically can act as a lubricant to the digestive enzymes in addition to the additional additional fiber from the prebiotic foods like trotting in the cold rice trotting in the cold potatoes. Green Plantations Means Green Bananas all those different kinds of things that can help move things along in terms of what specific strands are best for the very specific acidic health conditions that you guys asked me about I'm currently working on creating a document based on a lot of research that I'm currently he doing where I'm going to try and compile a list of specific strands of probiotics that have been shown to be helpful in certain health conditions bear in mind. This is probably going to take me a while because there's so much research out there and I'm also going to try and reach out to all of my practitioner friends and people people that I've met through the podcast to get their input and what's worked well for them and their clients to try and put this list together that being said even what I do. Put this list together. If I decide side to release it you have to keep in mind that this general health information and this is not me making a specific recommendation for you what I would do is if and when you find this information you can take it with you to your doctor your Dietitian nutritionist and say hey here are the research studies that show that what for example this specific probiotic strand has been shown to be helpful for anxiety or depression or IBS and take it into your own. He ends to do your own research because like I said before. The research on this stuff is constantly evolving to the point where it's really really hard to keep up with everything like I only graduated from Grad school almost three years ago and already all the information that is out there about probiotics is changing so much already that it almost seems seems like a lot of this stuff that I learned in schools like wow this is. This is completely different in it's kind of unnerving how fast science and nutrition changes also super cool. It just means if.