Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Alex Guerrero discussed on ESPN Daily

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Very much in his inner circle while still being in the locker room? Well, his final couple years in New England, I think that he had just been shown limits as to what he was going to be. Limits as to how much the head coach was invested in him over the long term, limits to his stature within the Bill Belichick system in the famously successful patriot way. Alex Guerrero, who came out before the bucks played the Patriots, this past year and said, you know, Bill Belichick failed to evolve to account for who Tom Brady was instead treating him, you know, like the 6th round rookie that he was 20 some years ago. And while I don't think that's fair, I think it's fair to say that it felt that way at times. And in Tampa, I think that his stature reflects his reality. And he can play by rules that are just his. And he can be the quarterback of the team. He can be a pseudo offensive coordinator. He can be a personnel executive. He can be a legal temper if that's even a phrase. And sure enough, the bucks just played this thing right. And here he is, 41 days later, and they have the best move of the off season, frankly. And as the powers of Tom Brady are concerned, Seth, you did mention before how his ability to defy every actuarial table is not by any means incidental. It is actually the thing that Tom Brady has come to understand and showcase. Better than anybody who's ever played sports, it seems like. And we had Dave Epstein, our friend and sports science writer. On last year to talk about the longevity of Brady and he kept on making this point that the things that he has to do in the pocket don't actually even require elite physiology, like Tom Brady has a very good arm. That'll deteriorate over time. But Dave called it these sorts of flashcards of perceptual decision making, and the ability for Tom Brady to catalog those into flip through them, pre snap as fast as anybody we've ever seen. And I wonder how that assessment sounds to you, and I wonder what it may foreshadow about what we're going to get this season. He's always been great at that. It's a piece of his game that is not dropped off at all. The ability to kind of just feel where pressure might be coming from and get rid of the ball just soon enough so that he either doesn't take a hit or the hit that he takes is so much softer than it would have been if he was still holding the ball. I think it's something he's always done well and it's one of those things that served him well because people like John Elway, people who kind of almost invite contact and play a version of street ball. We never think they're going to be good old quarterbacks, right? Whereas like Tom Brady has the perfect old man quarterback game. And this perfect old bag quarter of that game is now giving us all opportunities to get it wrong again. I mean, it's remarkable how wrong everybody in our business has fundamentally been over time with Tom Brady. And all of it raises a question Seth that I want in your particular vantage point on because I wonder, what do you think Bill Belichick is thinking, watching this news cycle now go the way it has? I'm sure he's not surprised that Brady is coming back, but yeah, I mean things have changed so much for the Patriots in the two year since Brady left New England. You know, when he left, I mean, obviously it's him and Patrick Mahomes at the top of the AFC in terms of quarterbacks. Now, the AFC is almost overpopulated with good young quarterbacks. You have burrow. You have mahomes. You have Alan, you have Lamar Jackson. Yeah, Herbert, you have so many good young players, and in New England you have Mac Jones, who finished his rookie year in clearly showed the world that he's going to be a competent NFL quarterback, and you just wonder if competence is even good enough in the AFC anymore. Or if he has to be great. And at the end of the day, Belichick, the one person in the world who should have known better than to underestimate Tom Brady underestimated him by essentially showing him the door and opening it for him to walk out of and he did, and here's Tom Brady again. Going on season number 23, and he'll be 45 years old when week one hits. It is remarkable. We're at a Law & Order level with Tom Brady, just like sees it after season after season after season. In syndication, for all time. And at the very end here is that I suppose I also want to ask you about someone who may be overestimated the man, as opposed to underestimate the man because I can't help but think about the guy who paid reportedly half a $1 million for the final touchdown ball that Tom Brady threw, this was one day, literally one day before he announced that actually not the final touchdown ball that I'm gonna throw here. What would you say to this guy if you had the opportunity to have an audience with a man who clearly must have some amount of buyer's remorse? I'm actually looking at this like a great PR opportunity where maybe he throws his first touchdown pass and grabs it and finds the guy after the game to give it to him. Because clearly that guy, you know, joining the legions of people who obviously, as you said, have been wrong about Tom Brady. As much as we talk about his love for the game and his fear of what life might look like without it, I think there's another element that's addictive to Tom Brady that we sometimes don't talk about. And that's the feeling of just getting started. The feeling of that blank canvas and the possibilities being limitless. I think that that's something that really drives him. It's one of those reasons why outsiders say, look at all you've accomplished. Look at all these things you have. Why aren't you happy? Why aren't you satisfied? And I think it's one of those innate and basic things that we often overlook that he simply loves that blank canvas. I think that's another reason why he's back. I just think that he sees another opportunity and why not see what he can do with it. So what you're also saying, Seth, is that the poor SAP who bought that football. Can also take solace in the fact that he's probably not going to be the only person to buy a football that gets billed as Tom Brady's final touchdown. Only to discover pretty soon after that, in fact, it's not Tom Brady's final touchdown ball. Probably won't be, but I can guarantee you that I will not be one of those people buying those footballs. Seth wickersham, I look forward to talking to you after the next un retirement. But until then, thanks for joining us. My pleasure, man. I'm Pablo Torre. This has been ESPN daily. I'll talk to you tomorrow..

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