Paul Romer, California, Shane Harris discussed on 1A with Joshua Johnson


I'm Joshua Johnson. It's the Friday news roundup with political journalist Todd's willik reporters, Shane Harris of the Washington Post and lily Jamali of California report before we move on from the weather and the climate lily. There was one more thing you wanted to jump. Yeah. I just wanted to to mention Paul Romer. The other guy who won the Nobel prize in economics this week talking about carbon taxes being the solution to to this crisis. At least in part. I think it's important to recognize that sounds punitive. But I think there is a positive message that he's trying to put out there. And that is if you commit to a tax on carbon not only are you dealing with this issue head on. But you're also in his view. Opening up the opportunity for people to make money investors to to make money off of this. Because when money's at stake, you're always gonna find alternatives people will naturally gravitate, and the economic argument is often on carbon tax that it's bad for business. California's the fifth largest economy in the world and Jerry Brown just signed an executive order committing the state to carbon neutrality by twenty forty five which I'm sure sounds crazy to people outside of the state, but that's actually very close to one of the policy prescriptions. The I the IPC set forth, it's kind of crazy until you do it, really. And California's very serious about doing. It is very serious about doing it. You know, Paul Romer talks about the problem isn't going to be solved until you build consensus and political will is really at the heart of that. There's there's really a huge divide in terms of political will not just here. But also, you know, I just moved here from Canada. Same thing there. You have prime minister Justin Trudeau. China impose a carbon tax across the country, and he's running into real opposition at the provincial level there before we move on. Let me get to one more comment. A few more comments on this. Not my economy tweeted, why are we still talking about the credibility of science when it comes to climate change? Good point, not my economy. I don't know if you listen to this program, but we are not questioning the credibility. That's kind of a done deal on this program. But I hear what you're saying. Larry tweeted, it's frustrating to hear criticism of citizens in some of the poorest parts of Florida for not upgrading their homes ability to withstand hurricanes, they may live where other people vacation, but they're mostly stuck. This storm will expose that. Contrast, Shane Harris. I wonder if you could respond to Larry on one hand, I disagree with him as a Floridian like the state of Florida has programs to help you hard in your home. And if you want to live in Florida that is a basil risk of living within yards of a rising coastline. If you wanna live there. You just have to absorb that on the other hand. I totally hear what he's coming from Mexico beach where the hurricane Michael made landfall had to be moved back from the coastline for safety sake. The town could unincorporated it's it's it's a tough one nowadays, really tough. And when we're thinking about climate change in sort of thirty to forty year are Todd and I were just talking about this during the break. There are existential risks that are posed not just to communities close to the coastline the one. We're talking about today, but large cities like Miami in Florida and other places that really in the long term are going to have to make serious profound. Choices about survivability about resilience whether people want to continue living there, and there is an element of risk that you take that also has to give people some agency. And what I think is missing from the conversation about climate change is a real honest discussion about long term risk, and what the responsibility is for people living in these places and their elected leaders both at the logo. And the national level. We are not having that conversation and Joshua Jimmy one small point just to end if you think that that risk and getting your heads around the risk for lower income or poor people here in America is something we need to think about Americans also need to think about what some of our international leaders generals. Like, Colin Powell advisors had been saying for years, if you think it's a risk in this country. Imagine what storms increased drought and conflict means for millions and millions of poor people around the world when they start to migrate when they upset the relationships between countries, and that becomes not just their problem. Terms of life and death. But America's problem in terms of keeping the world in order. We'll listen for those of you who are in an had been in the path of hurricane Michael. We wish you, of course, a speedy recovery. And we'd love to hear from you as you continue to deal with the recovery. Give us a sense of how you're doing. How the recovery is going. What your thoughts are? And how things are going how well fee. Is meeting your needs. State officials how well that's going. We always love to hear from you feel free to Email us one a ads WAM dot org. You can always leave us a voicemail at eight five five two three six one one. A we know connectivity is probably bad where you are. So be careful moving around if you have to find a cell signal, please stay safe do not put your health at risk for the sake of sending us a voicemail. But if you're able we'd love to know how you're doing eight five five two three six one a one a let's move onto the White House where another major official is leaving the administration. Nikki Haley, the US ambassador to the United Nations announced her resignation on Tuesday. A lot of people.

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