Bermuda, Durham Andrew, Johnny discussed on The Wonkhe Show - the higher education podcast

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Meanwhile the arts and humanities courses that most politicians themselves studied but they don't want other people have the available option to study. Those are the ones that are more likely to survive so the solution could beat top the stem funding but unless they are prepared to top it all the way up. It's still not going to work because those courses are still going to loss-making and it'll be the other lower cost courses which will be breaking even but they won't be able to cross subsidize and so the very outcome that the government wants to achieve would be very one they undermine halen obviously to get the system under control from treasury point. Va this basically three things. You can do right. You can either lower the unit of resource somehow or you can have fewer students guy universe. They cannot graduates back more. What what do you think we're in for all three do you think where do you think in. The end will land in that kind of bermuda triangle of do well who knows and i think that those different options would probably get a bit of all three. I mean there's been other kite. Flying is very much acts in four. Some we've got lots of quotations from various little vice vice-chancellor pro you know sort of predicting doom and an all magadan. But i think i think it's really interesting to hear. Janis interpretation of outcomes. Because i i'm sensing the courses that more in the crosshairs are are the arts and humanities and it's interesting that his view which has you know. She's very logical means that the the opposite thing might happen so one of these kite flying articles in the times this week talks about all these different measures and this a quotation at the end of the article which is stated as an uncontested fact. And it's worth reflecting on lights says gothic williamson. The education sector is cain to move students way from arts and humanities degrees those with pork graduate outcomes so just pause on that for a second not arts and humanities degrees that have poor outcomes arts and humanities degrees and those poor graduate outcome so that includes classics oxford theology at durham andrew or govett credible statement. Take it at face value. But we know that he's also been on the record. Recently saying things like the number of students taking up science and engineering demonstrates that many are already starting to pivot away from these dead end courses. So so i think we know the direction. Travelled at the government is trying to achieve. But i think is interesting in that you know. This goes back to my point about where we landed the policy of unintended consequences. And i think johnny's point about those unintended consequences that that is a real danger that we end up with some bigger universities who have been essentially fishing in the tariff pool of shall we say for things like english history theology other humanities and arts. They may stop doing that because they because they won't be able to make the cross-subsidy so who knows where all this land But i think we do know the clear direction of travel that the government wants to take johnny one. What do you think he's more likely. Sort of variable fees that students can say variable units of resolves. Students can't say gee semaine will. The will we end up. Wait the government trying to incentivize sa- and coal season disincentivize the provision of other coal sees..

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