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Hong Hong Kong Kong distance distance planned planned a a massive massive March March in in Hong Hong Kong Kong today today but but they they were were faced faced with with a a formidable formidable array array of of armed armed police police and and were were forced forced to to spread spread out out around around the the city city as as police police arrested arrested over over three three hundred hundred here here for for an an assessment assessment of of the the tensions tensions in in Hong Hong Kong Kong is is M. M. Taylor Taylor Preval Preval he he is is director director of of the the MIT MIT security security studies studies program program so so welcome welcome it's it's great great to to have have you you with with us us give give us us your your sense sense did did basically basically China China win win this this one one today today I I don't don't think think I I don't don't want want this this one one today today I I mean mean the the protests protests have have been been going going on on for for a a very very long long period period of of time time and and this this is is just just one one one one battler battler but but it's it's a a much much longer longer our our war war in in Hong Hong Kong Kong for for for for greater greater independence independence from from China China what what was was the the response response from from the the police police from from the the authorities authorities much much more more forceful forceful than than we've we've seen seen in in the the past past because because they they they they were were trying trying to to get get to to let's let's go go as as a a threat threat finance finance religion religion council council and and anywhere anywhere near near it it right right no no but but but but but but there's there's been been I I mean mean do do these these protests protests have have literally literally been been going going on on for for almost almost a a year year right right and and and and so so today today yes yes perhaps perhaps the the protesters protesters didn't didn't get get to to where where they they wanted wanted to to go go but but in in some some ways ways because because you you are are talking talking about about her her I I think think the the protest protest on on back back right right I I mean mean it it is is very very clear clear that that the the people people of of Hong Hong Kong Kong are are upset upset with with the the new new legislation legislation proposed proposed in in Beijing Beijing and and they're they're taking taking to to the the streets streets again again even even though though the the virus virus situation situation Hong Hong Kong Kong perhaps perhaps without without fully fully eats eats them them and and that that to to me me I I think think is is almost almost more more important important than than sort sort of of what what happened happened in in in in in in in in in in for for today's today's round round right right and and insist insist it's it's round round after after round round after after his his vision vision care care about about with with the the people people of of Hong Hong Kong Kong upset upset me me what what real real effect effect does does it it have have on on the the vital vital interests interests of of China China itself itself well well I I mean mean for for for for Beijing Beijing right right Bayview Bayview Hong Hong Kong Kong and and and and the the protests protests over over the the last last year year to to the the land land of of opportunity opportunity right right and and then then when when when when Britain Britain I I reverted reverted to to Hong Hong Kong Kong in in in in Britain Britain and and a a training training issue issue in in Hong Hong Kong Kong diversion diversion which which took took place place in in nineteen nineteen ninety ninety seven seven but but it it was was under under this this rubric rubric of of one one country country two two systems systems in in the the one one country country was was tryna tryna therefore therefore Hong Hong Kong Kong was was a a part part of of I I tried tried it it but but there there be be two two systems systems of of governance governance and and within within that that Hong Hong Kong Kong would would enjoy enjoy a a substantial substantial amount amount of of talking talking and and the the protests protests that that have have been been happening happening it's it's in in the the last last year year for for responding responding to to efforts efforts by by I I bet bet you you can can basically basically took took a a certain certain greater greater control control over over a a dead dead inside inside Hong Hong Kong Kong kind kind of of squeezing squeezing that that economy economy so so from from Beijing's Beijing's perspective perspective there there were were writing writing in in my my furnace furnace and and in in my my system system they they over over exaggerate exaggerate the the fact fact that that sort sort of of any any kind kind of of true true independence independence movement movement Hong Hong Kong Kong or or the the fact fact that that might might succeed succeed in in the the main main event event at at the the symbology symbology here here is is important important and and clearly clearly the the people people of of Hong Hong Kong Kong are are kind kind of of standing standing up up to to China China and and and and that that of of course course kind kind of of adaptations adaptations for for other other US US sovereignty sovereignty disputes disputes involving involving China China including including Taiwan Taiwan also also has has implications implications for for domestic domestic politics politics what what is is left left at at this this point point in in your your assessment assessment of of the the two two systems systems as as part part of of the the one one country country two two systems systems some some of of the the United United States States a a look look at at it's it's basically basically gone gone but but is is that that an an exact exact I I think think that that overstates overstates the the situation situation but but clearly clearly I've I've China China has has on on one one level level right right the the national national security security level level are are much much more more forcefully forcefully asserted asserted itself itself it it hasn't hasn't moved moved out out to to sort sort of of take take down down everything everything else else that that makes makes the the Hong Hong Kong Kong what what it it is is today today and and what what makes makes the the system system also also different different from from that that in in the the mail mail about about it it certainly certainly if if adding adding an an extra extra layer layer of of screaming screaming in in actual actual air air pressure pressure also also it it sort sort of of has has been been backsliding backsliding on on on on efforts efforts to to serve serve allow allow other other people people of of Hong Hong Kong Kong greater greater autonomy autonomy and and how how did did she she shoot shoot their their chief chief executive executive so so I I think think some some thought thought that that over over the the course course of of time time through through Hong Hong Kong Kong economy economy I I was was going going to to wake wake our our hotline hotline didn't didn't get get it it in in the the agreement agreement that that led led to to Hong Hong Kong Kong reversion reversion to to the the mainland mainland and and and and as as basically basically have have stopped stopped at at the the I I try try to to sort sort of of saying saying look look how how how how you you can can pass pass through through a a town town in in the the but but you you can't can't have have maybe maybe what what you you thought thought you're you're going going to to have have the the and and we we Beijing Beijing and and I I have have the the final final say say on on how how the the territories territories governed governed so so that that it it does does not not impinge impinge upon upon how how the the departing departing Beijing Beijing views views are are kind kind of of sovereignty sovereignty it's it's not not just just the the people people of of Hong Hong Kong Kong were were upset upset about about the the developments developments with with a a fair fair number number of of people people in in Washington Washington both both Republicans Republicans and and Democrats Democrats I I should should say say who who were were also also in in sync sync some some genuine genuine concerns concerns including including today today with with sector sector prepares prepares saying saying he he will will not not certify certify that that Hong Hong Kong Kong is is autonomous autonomous which which as as I I understand understand it it puts puts a a question question it's it's trade trade treatment treatment by by the the United United States States does does that that put put pressure pressure on on Beijing Beijing it it feels feels like like it it hurts hurts Hong Hong Kong Kong more more than than it it does does Beijing Beijing I I think think ultimately ultimately it it will will hurt hurt Hong Hong Kong Kong more more than than hurt hurt gained gained attention attention because because Beijing Beijing views views this this through through the the land land sovereignty sovereignty much much more more than than through through the the lens lens of of finance finance and and economics economics think think back back twenty twenty or or thirty thirty years years ago ago Hong Hong Kong Kong was was greater greater China's China's financial financial sector sector right right it it was was it it was was sort sort of of the the engine engine of of of of a a kind kind of of coastal coastal economy economy would would be be under under close close he he played played an an enormous enormous role role in in China's China's opening opening reform reform but but now now try try as as much much wealthier wealthier too too much much stronger stronger and and then then many many people people try try to to talk talk about about how how they'd they'd like like to to see see John John hi hi I I play play the the role role that that Hong Hong Kong Kong once once before before and and so so it it just just pushes pushes out out more more companies companies into into trying trying to to intentionally intentionally high high I I don't don't think think Beijing Beijing will will necessarily necessarily be be that that it it is is active active if if of of course course some some businesses businesses may may choose choose to to go go alternate alternate and and and and and and and and I I think think you're you're asking asking the the board board to to the the greatest greatest beneficiary beneficiary that that regard regard it it was was this this in in some some sense sense is is inevitable inevitable that that would would happen happen or or his his timing timing something something important important here here well well the the word word is is world world is is consumed consumed of of attack attack Pendek Pendek does does that that give give president president G. G. and and division division and and opportunity opportunity I I don't don't think think it it does does my my view view is is that that the the situation situation Hong Hong Kong Kong has has been been deteriorating deteriorating for for the the last last six six years years or or so so the the last last twelve twelve months months right right with with the the practice practice that that we we talked talked about about at at the the start start of of the the segment segment it's it's it's it's been been quite quite intense intense and and from from Beijing's Beijing's perspective perspective the the government government Hong Hong Kong Kong is is unable unable right right basically basically I've I've I've I've bring bring those those protests protests to to land land and and return return stability stability to to the the territory territory and and so so many many of of us us who who who who watched watched the the situation situation how how come come thought thought that that China China would would do do something something and and they'll they'll probably probably do do something something this this spring spring especially especially after after one one third third of of the the coronavirus coronavirus situation situation began began to to ease ease I'm I'm not not sure sure hi hi everyone everyone myself myself included included necessarily necessarily predicted predicted the the National National Security Security wallaby wallaby the the format format the the actual actual tape tape but but but but that that China China is is taking taking action action to to defend defend what what I I believe believe that that if if interested interested call call call call I I don't don't think think I I should should be be surprising surprising and and I I I I don't don't think think it's it's an an effort effort to to take take advantage advantage of of the the server server the the world's world's distraction distraction moreover moreover if if you you look look at at U. U. S. S. China China relations relations and and they they had had never never before before has has the the recommend recommend more more focused focused on on China China than than in in the the last last four four months months right right the the checkout checkout is is being being opportunistic opportunistic and and thinks thinks the the U. U. S. S. is is distracted distracted I I don't don't know know how how they they can can come come to to that that conclusion conclusion we're we're talking talking about about yeah yeah he he I I will will talk talk about about it it I I tried tried all all day day all all the the time time or or what what it it means means but but United United States States cell cell I I I I I I do do think think that that that that that that that that product product products products which which I I think think it's it's fair fair to to say say I I don't don't think think we're we're to to stop stop talking talking about about China China for for example example long long time time to to come come we're we're still still not not done done with with the the national national people's people's Congress Congress right right thank thank you you so so very very much much is is really really great great to to have have you you with with us us today today that that is is MIT's MIT's M. M. Taylor Taylor

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