Bin Laden, South Africa, Europe discussed on BBC Newsday


A slow vaccine drawl out It seems a long way off, or regulations have elicited so ballots reporting from Pakistan. Joe Parkinson. How does the vaccination campaign look to you in South Africa and when you look more broadly around southern Africa? In the words bad I mean, you know, the latest data from the World Health Organization shows that North 0.4% of Africa of substance or an African people of approximately one billion Person population have been vaccinated so far. When you compare that against 40% of Americans and farm or in Britain and parts of Israel and the rest of the world, you get a sense of Of the challenge, I think in South Africa specifically, the government was rightly applauded in the early days of the pandemic for responding in a kind of decisive and competent way with the first lockdown. But since then, since the AstraZeneca vaccines that they ordered arrived and they didn't use because they were worried that it wouldn't be effective against the South African variant. It's been kind of cascade of bad news. Really. And as we head into the third wave here, the small number of people that have been vaccinated both emergency services workers and others who are in the vulnerable category really is really is a cause for concern. Join a cook This issue of vaccine hesitancy, those who are reluctant to take this wherever they are in the world. What's your take on that? Where do you look at a zoo being A new, interesting focus for that particular issue. Yeah, so it might feel there's been a lot of focus on. Ah, extremist combines extremist groups that are spreading in disseminating misinformation and conspiracy theories around vaccines. And this has really been eroding kind of faith and not only government but in indeed very valuable vaccines in particular, And when you mention the case of Pakistan before, you know, there's that additional burden in Pakistan, where Vaccine workers historically because of this operation against bin Laden have been targeted themselves. And there is a concern that that there might be some Some security fears for some of these workers as well and I really hope that's that's not the case the point Joe often made about trying to make sure that everyone in the world is vaccinated so that poorer countries are looked after by rich ones in this context, because it's in the interests of the richer countries for that to happen. How does that argument play out Joe Pakistani in Johannesburg on that? Well, I think if you speak to health care officials or governance officials, you know, they've been advocating for a long time that there needs to be significant donations. You know vaccines to the parts of the world that can't afford or can't access than it's a simple kind of calculation really that no one's protected until everyone's protected. That's the mantra on the kind of logic behind that, of course, is if this virus continues to circulate in poorer parts of the world, even Does the wealthier parts of the world are safe and can move on. With opening up their economies. The virus will continue to mutate and who knows what it oration that virus will take and how dangerous that could be against the vaccines that are currently protecting people in the wealthy part of the world. It is a shared interest here in the strata Jonah Cooke briefly by current statements in the UK, about the Indian variant, and at the moment Anxiety being displayed by the prime minister. Yeah, absolutely. And I think there has been a lot of concern in the Netherlands as well and in Canada. But what this new variant could mean for us, And you know that the UK has the benefit of being one of the most highly vaccinated populations in Europe right now, and even here, there's there's serious concern about what could what could happen with the new variant and how that might impact the vaccines that are already being that have already been jabbed into arms over here. My guest today join a cook in London, Joe Parkinson in Johannesburg more from them in the final hour of the program, you're listening to weekend on the.

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