Then tell us a little bit Ben about, uh, caterwauling towards the light. And I should just looking at some of the, um, notes and stuff on your sounds like it obviously you I see side wanted to do so you do you or you're, you're doing the vinyl released for this too as well. Yeah, I'm going to do a vinyl release in the late spring. You know, you have to queue up your vinyl now because we're so cute plants less the bake it. So and it's very expensive cost proposition. Yeah, I know it's a Labour love to do vinyl intellectually, really touring and people really firing, it know it's it's like playing poker. You can lose some hands. You win some hands if you can break-even, you know, that's right for you. And with this type of proposition. Uh, but uh, you know, there is there's just equality is vinyl. That is just magnificent, You know? And when you listen to these classic recordings in any genre of Music, whether it be classical or Jazz or country in. Western, you know, as you sick how they were recorded in a room with maybe one or two Mike's but they captured the essence, the East Coast of that music of that songwriter of that performance. It's, you know, it's really are inspiring that don't get me wrong. Digital music in hip hop and new forms of Music really abuse digital, uh, technology and have maximized the potential of that. You know, 'cause you here If you're out dancing and you're into electronic dance music and that Paul and the vibrator creates area it. And you know you're locked in. And that's a foot frequency that maybe the youth culture vibrator different who dropped bike retool differently than we do. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Well, now speaking of the, uh, the, um, the the recording processing everything now on your on your record now, uh, y- y, you will do a vine oppressing opposite. Now you record you recorded this digitally off probably, right? Like all of us record, Right. Yep. Yup. The I don't know who's art of Martin analog. Yeah. Yeah, know. Lewis hard to find airlock studios is still have to which could see it. And I know. Hasley because peace costly, then you gotta find it. So that's one of the things that was, you know, sadly, I didn't have that opportunity going into this record. I had a you know, had I had the opportunity, it will ordered every say analog The. The whose ought to be going to be recording? Uh, who's on the record? It looks like you played a lot of the instruments yourself. Um, yeah, you know. The skirt uh, sorry to cut you off. All right You know, I have a core group of musicians that I play within New York City. Warn of the beauties of being in New York is there's never shortage like exceptional musicians. And then I have some guest stars in some friends from all over the place from LA London. Uh, but you know, my core banned in New York. Uh, actually it other guy from Cleveland, Jonathan Kaye Panda's, tremendous guitar player, kind of a Daniel and Walmart. We boast style guitarist really place ought to be very textured in nuance. Not your typical thing. You know, you'll hear more of this kind of guitar-playing with a now Klein will go, You know, if I were to use a reference point. Okay. Or you are like I said, Daniel and wa. Uh, you know, a little bit more atmospheric like though Like your favorite atmospheric Dillon rectors. Uh, I I use the drummer Mark broader who played with a band called ham, which was on Capitol Records, a kind of aches s- you know, a very Catholic Americana banned, uh, Sammy Merrin Dino. Late on one of the track Sammy was Holland out to Andrew, Cindy Lauper is drummer Uh, he and I grew up together in Akron Ohio, and he played on one of the singles fly, and we actually recorded in his studio in Harlem Harlem parlor Studios, magnificent studio. He's Rick lease recorded Dart's Smith there. You know, Darden rights, access, well-known singer, singer-songwriter. And we got Queen asked who is eight. She calls her music Afro Americana. She's she's an African American singer, songwriter. She does Billie Holiday tributes. She plays with James blood. All. I mean she's got you know, talk about a story, resume, You know. So for me to be able to pull people like this onto the record. And you know, played for nominal money, if any. In some instances just in the joy making the music, It shows you where we are music like, you know, in the old days you'd have a budget and you go, You know, I got two thousand dollars come down, must do a session. Now young are saying, Hey, come up to my studio. It's just sitting empty and I got nothing to do. Uh, let's records to music, What are you got? And you and you get that kind of community. So once sense. Yeah, we're taking a step back from being able to make money with music than the other sense. There's the community of musicians as is a lot more accepting. You'll get a guy like Jackson Browne playing with dogs, right or, or you know, playing with young musicians and say, Hey, let's record at my studio or Dennemont tension, Tom Petty's keyboard player who play with all these young musicians, any the Tour with it. You know, in the past that might not have been possible because of manager would say, Well, you can't afford to do that. You know, they need to pay you X amount of dollars. Uh, uh, uh, you know, uh, my good friend Martin John Butler uh, w- I recorded a limelight vocals at these places like a master Voelkel Tuesday or if I could, you know, if there. You know, if there is such a thing, you know, every every day when I see him walking my dog is talking about a new Mike or pre Mike, then Isn't this Mike shootout and he's sending me links to listen to this. You forty seven persons of new soya Michael far-right. And he's got me into this thing. You know, which I already 'em with tone Texas on guitars & AMP soon. The tow the tones of regrets versus a telecaster what works better on this song or against that lyric or the tone of the song that I'm trying to create. So you know, I got really into the minutiae of that with this records. I have to say, I really got like, okay, where does this song? What kind of basis needed? Peter Hamilton are base player who hails from Toronto originally like kid. I want you to try upright on this. And then he's been well. Maybe they'll try D. I direct input with my based on this, but also try to an air. And we started breaking things like that, And it gets really fought it up because he start to put things together. Uh, in this digital world where in the past God to do that on tape, Can you imagine the caution that only the role and half could burn? Taylor like that, Right? Acknowledged Horry. Yeah, there for answer they say I roll tape and now we got a faces track in LA will take the tracks from France and important. But yeah, you know today digitally up my friend David O'Kielty from London dropping vocals on the very first track fall out of line to David. I, I hear your vocal on this is the Koboko with me and you want to try it. So I sent him to digital files and then recorded a vocal, send it back and we QE it up and it came out really, really well or, uh, the track yards away. We left our, our hearts. I got Gabriel handy who is a tremendous classical guitarist here in New York and also teaches classical guitar. And you know, in his own right, he plays all over the world. Uh, so I said, Look, I wanna got string kind of Willie Nelson. Acoustic guitar track. I think it will be beautiful. I've got my law Konchellah smack Turkey playing cello on the track. It's very sparse. Uh, you know, I think this is a. I want baby migratory. It's an light production in, That's it. It. Oh, yeah, in a in a background. And you know, get came in and knock you out of the park. And then two days later is like, I need to redo my part. I heard something different Now, man, it's great. I love. I did. I don't want to mess with it because sometimes you go in there and start as, you know, they ask breaking breaking it down. You make it worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You. Everything you tell us nothing less. Um, and we're going to go ahead and play tried because I I really love. Uh, this record Now I've got advance uh, uh, uh, access to it. Um, and I I I do I think that's that's sort of like it really is kind of atmospheric Moody. Um, sort of like a songs will tend to take you one, not just a miracle during the kind of a, a Sonic journey that, like real sounds case really beautiful stuff. Linzhong fly. Tell us a little bit about this. Uh, because there's a little bit of a story, uh, behind distract. There's actually is.