Hello, I'm scared of... crime books!
I think. That's one of the kind of joys and the drawbacks of crime is zone and it's one of the things that annoys me when people always read pieces in the newspapers whereas it's someone making sweeping generalizations about crime this crime that and actually crime is a huge on. R- it's as big as you know it's like saying fiction is this like of course then some parts of fiction it is but crime spans the gamut from really intensely literary right through to kind of pure page-turners an really like terrifying stuff. That is way too hot for me. I'm quite a REC- readers. I chose reader. Yeah yeah that makes for better things stops me is that I'm like kind of scattered Dr. I'm an ex Christian but for some reason I still it kind of affects like how much I really believe in ghosts which is more people and let me say that your Senate Sky Dateline kind of chills and speak. He stuff like there's quite a lot of playing about with that in my books but what I really don't. I cannot read books that are kind of sold. Like people locked in basements or sexual torture or particularly stuff happening to kids. That's just like my my line You know no shade on people who write that. It's we need to explore all areas of human experience in fiction. And that's fine but it's not what I want to spend my evenings immersing myself in you know when you're not familiar with the genre as you say. Sometimes the jackets can similar when they kind of wildly different types of six and it is a bit of a learning curve. I think finding out sort of which bit because I I also have had this stuff about crime fiction through the ages where it's like often this get letting the thing that is scary in the book as a society. We're a little bit afraid of and that can make change throughout the decades but then it also means that on a personal level of the stuff that you're like I'm quite interested in exploring fair and then other stuff that is enjoyable to explore the new stuff. That's definitely I mean. The classic thing that is always talked about is the fact that the golden age of crime was in between the wars and Agatha Christie was writing all the way through the Second World War and wrote some of her best names route. Twelve books I think during the second mobile without stopping sometimes two books a year and people who wanted to read about this and even in the midst of kind of death and bereavement and destruction and bombs and huge uncertainty. They wanted crime and it becomes. Yeah they sort of. Are they exploring phase safely They wanted to live in a world where the impossible is solved. May Right and where bodies brought to justice. I don't know if there was easy. Onces like I would publish a thesis on it and become a PhD. If it's the same with you but like I say. I think that there's probably a lot misconceptions around crime and just named one of the crime writers that I know apart from nightmare modern switched our Agatha Christie and then shallow stuff like that's the only kind of two touch points a puffer Moton wrenches. The I know like what do you come up against misconceptions at variety forgot anymore misconceptions That you have but like do you come up against those things in the book and what which ones are true and which ones are like. Not Surgery are accurate. I think one thing I sometimes maybe misconception. On the hair is that they. They're not always believable and things. Sometimes people read to escape. Some people read to understand that life or the situational things going on in the world a little bit more and I think there are a lot. I know that there are a lot like that. I think that's not necessarily something I believe. I think that sometimes a bit of misconception that it sort of by so many things can happen to someone in the morning but life I watched enough kind of true crime dramas tonight actually extraordinary things do happen to people. That's why I might see rates because I've always struggled with that exact question of I don't want to write a procedural. I don't want to write about police officer because I don't inhabit that world and it's not my area of expertise and you do run up against the question of realistically. How many bodies can an ordinary person stumble? We're not Jessica Fletcher. We don't like Pandora in Cabot Cove and have a corpse waiting there every single day. So you know something that crime writers struggle with as well but I do. I firmly believe that it is completely possible. Implausible for one terrible unlikely incident to strike people in a lifetime. I think we've all been the victims of those and we know people who've had terrible extraordinary things happen to them so I don't think in itself that's but yet when it happens again and again and again. This is an interesting one because you can say that any genre like pick Saad poetry. And how sad can Waldman really be like you know like a little life is like? That's brutal like I think. We can fly that to to cry when actually we can say that about a lot of German. You're always going to be talking about the extraordinary end of ordinary. Even when you know even when it's just a regular life you're writing about it. In some kind of heightened artificial way. No one writes about life as it really happens because it would be incredibly tedious and full of sequiturs either. That's not how fiction works. We accept that it's a kind of construct but yes how far you'll cater for peds to to follow that construct but do you so. Do you read climate. All right if you read stuff and enjoyed it or you just never really got to grips with that. As as you know I have and I remember when I was younger. My Dad my dad is a big kind of threat breeze all the big American crime office and I remember the get that again. It's I remember picking up because I was on holiday and I ran. We ran out two books and I picked up a Ro Robert Ludlum book and I absolutely loved and for years it was the Sigma Protocol and it was one of my favorite books because it had this kind of I was so gripped by the narrative but also had this kind of the end of real big moral question kind of about ethics and I just found really fascinating but then I didn't pick up another one. So it's it's. It's a bit strange so I don't really know why because the ones I have read. I have enjoyed that. I think I also haven't I work in publishing and a low of my reading is dictated by what I work on. Haven't actually worked with any modern crime. Rights is so I don't know yeah. It's not that I haven't enjoyed them. I just think it's interesting like what we bookshop. What we go towards. Because it's what we see ourselves. I'm like I didn't really see myself as a crime rate even though I've read crime is that thing of like what settles in your head and doesn't right if you were going to pick up the next crime book. Let's find one for eight. What would you be looking for in a crime free Even the book. Yeah gives you elements and we'll diagnose. Okay will somewhere with a real sense of place that I can kind of stand on this because we're not going anywhere right now that we need some vivid sensitive travel escape my falls something historical but maybe more kind of twentieth century historical and something. I do think that raises questions. It makes you think differently about something so I kind of like moral ambiguity in well. I have three suggestions for you. If people are sort of struggling to find their way into genre I sometimes think it's helpful to have sort of stepping stone books. That kind of are not necessarily crime but crime adjacent and a book which I firmly believe is part of the psychological thriller Genre and I would probably be one of the best but isn't usually shoved as that regard it is that is Rebecca by definitely Maury Which I think has the amazing sense of place that you're after Obviously it also literary classics. So it's just a really good book to have read if what is adjusted in literary fiction because it's the touchstone for a lot of kind of literary fiction as well as a lot of crime fiction Another book which again is kind of Paul of the Classic Crime Cannon and I think has the kind of moral questioning and ambiguity. That may be talking about Would be the time. Mister Ripley by Patricia Highsmith She is just wonderful writer full stop. She writes very sparsely. She's amazing at creating character. She plunged irritate and it is a crime novel. You're kind of trying to figure out what's happening whether Ripley's GonNa get caught. But she sort of puts you on the opposite side most crime because you're in Ripley skin and you're rooting for him. Even as he's doing terrible terrible things but you also kind of at the same time want justice to catch up with him but in terms of Morton book which I think takes away your boxes including the historical one. I would highly recommend Alabama cheese Series which is set in the Indian raw and has to fantastic Cactus at the center of it. There's some who's an English man who's been kind of Dropped into colonial India in sort of Typically kind of bossing the locals around and then as he's kind of second in command and sidekicks the not who's an Indian And it's just it's brilliantly done and it tackles some really big questions alongside each time. A really cracking mystery in terms of you. WanNa find out whodunit. You WanNa you the detectives to solve it. You want everyone to be bang to rights but he's really grappling with big twentieth century. Questions that estill dogging us today in terms of the fact that we don't have solutions. These are still things the Iraqi going in the news today. I'm they're just cracking a good races