A highlight from #352: Why Youre Burning Out -- And How to Fix It | Leah Weiss


Among women millions of whom have exited the workplace since the pandemic began so what is burn out. Exactly it's worth it gets tossed around a lot. And how do you know if you qualify. And if you do qualify. How do you fix it and one last question. Help when you try to fix it. We're going to be tackling all of this today. With leo weiss who despite being a longtime meditators herself has experienced burnout. Firsthand leah a researcher and author. She was a founding member of the compassion institute at stanford university and she's the co founder of skylight which is a company that specializes in using the latest science to help organizations prevent burnout. She's written two books. The most relevant of which for our purposes is called how we work live your purpose reclaim your sanity and embrace the daily grind. In this conversation we cover the differences among anxiety depression and burnout. How to detect burnout. How long a spectrum and is as she says a full body experience why meditation can help but also make some people more susceptible to burnout. What can be done to protect women in the workplace and finally her argument that burnout is not just a personal problem but also a systemic one. One quick visits before we dive in here. If you're a long-time listener you've heard me talk many many times about our companion meditation app. You might even be a little sick of it so you might ask. Why does harris keep talking about this. If i want to meditate. I just go on youtube and search for a guided meditation for free or sitting silence on my own or use another app. Well first of all yes all that you can do all of those things. There are many different ways to learn how to meditate. And if you've already found one or more ways that works for you that's great. Keep going with it. However i do think there's something special if i do say so myself about the relationship between what we do here on the podcasts interviewing world renowned experts getting their take on issues that impact our minds on a day-to-day basis and the app where we share practices specifically chosen to help. You will apply the lessons. You learn here on the podcast. There's a kind of deliberate symbiosis in our conversation. A few weeks ago the meditation teacher seven eight selassie hit on something key about this relationship. Let me just play you. A quick quote from her. I'm a big proponent of what i would call integrating study in practice so combined with our practice are what we call insights. That's why this tradition is called inside. Is these moments in your so great at articulating that and bring people onto kind of discuss that. Like what is it that we're learning. And then how do we re incorporate that back into the practice. I will be honest and makes me feel a little bit uncomfortable. Hearing said praise my interview skills she may or may not be right about that. But what i do. Think she articulates. Brilliantly is why we're so gung ho about the aforementioned symbiosis between the work we do here on the podcast and the work that we do over on the app practice and study work best in concert. Because you're working several parts of the mind at once. That's how i learned from my teachers. You know engaging prefrontal cortex reading books or articles having conversations many of those articles and books were recommended or sent directly to me by sub but then also doing the practices that helped me sort of integrate the wisdom into deeper parts of my mind and my body and that's really the experience.

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