Pelosi Expects Public Impeachment Hearings to Begin This Month


Morning the house has formally approved an impeachment inquiry focused on president trump it was very nearly a party line vote it establishes a process to make the inquiry more public people investigators have interviewed in private may be interviewed again at hearings seen on TV the White House we should recall has not disputed the facts found in testimony and documents for the most part president trump did ask you cranes president to investigate Democrats including his political rival Joe Biden the president instead argues that his conduct was quote perfect and that the investigation is unfair Hogan Gidley as Deputy Assistant to the president in the White House principal deputies press secretary he's on the phone good morning Sir good morning does the house vote in the process it's now been set up for public hearings make this process any more fair well two things first let me start off with the premise out right which is completely incorrect the president was talking to president elect give out corruption it is not the link you ran on and one on looting out corruption in Ukraine is a worldwide fact everyone knows that Ukraine was a corrupt country that's why the Lynskey was able to win so easily the present was simply talking to him about the corruption use of the term I wanna make sure justice Mr Gidley I want to make sure we're clear on this you said the premise was incorrect I've just been reading again the transcript of the caller not a transcript the record of the call the president asks about a couple of specific things one is a conspiracy theory involving crowd size crowd striking the Democratic National Committee server the other involves Joe Biden and a son hunter Biden does the only things the president asked about of all the possible corruption the only things the president asked about do you disagree that the president last you lance president on down let's talk about where his political rivals for twenty twenty everyone in the world and forgive me but I'm old enough to remember when Democrats actually cared about what happened the twenty sixteen election nobody was talking about and quite frankly this is what the president ran on in one on one and that is making sure that the money we give these countries these hundreds of millions of dollars are actually spent wisely now I understand Democrats don't care about how we spend taxpayer dollars at home much left abroad but this president does let me just to the impeachment vote I think we should move there well let me bald head straight way to Hogan we've got a we've got a corrected fact here you said the president did not ask about a twenty twenty rival the record of the call the White House record the call the record you released says that president trump asked about Joe Biden so that is totally false what you just said why do you say that falls thing in relation to the twenty sixteen corruption he wasn't talking about twenty twenty and you and your listeners know that what I was biting involved with the crowd strike thing exactly if you're talking about the twenty sixteen election and you're talking about the corruption is it related to Ukraine you talk about the person who dealt with Ukraine that was killed by I'm sorry but running for president doesn't insulate you from any criticism or any investigations widely true let's go on to your question about the process now because you want to make a point about the process and whether it's more fair right it's not what the Democrats here have done is his right sham impeachment process all behind closed doors without any sunlight whatsoever selectively leaking pieces of information without full testimony to try in building narrative moving into the second round the vote yesterday except say we're gonna make portions of the next part public after we've already tried to tie dye your hands down your feet blindfold you put in a closet and beat you senseless they were just got take the blindfold off around two round three is organised taken from the Judiciary Committee and we expect though that you're gonna be blade up enough where it won't matter the problem is too they're fighting against the Donald Trump is gonna stand up around three fight back yeah it's interesting I think Democrats would characterize it differently but there is an element of truth in what you said that they would have to admit which is that they've just taken a bunch of testimony in these private hearings and they're going to call those witnesses back in public and expect them to stand behind those stories which we which we largely now is that going to make it challenging to defend the president in public right and face cross examination so so do you do you do you think that there's going to be difficulty defending that case given that so much of it is already on the record no because you're only hearing you know selective pieces of one portion and then also yesterday for example I don't think you're doing a private is beginning to backfire their reports Mister Morrison testimony was that he felt the present had done nothing wrong nothing illegal so they're all types of things coming out of these hearings and and you're kind of making not white which is it be really nice for the American people to get to see this out in the open and in public if you get a parking ticket your forty due process you can confront the policeman who gave it to you you can talk to the judge about it you can submit evidence you can ask questions although although as you know the police might investigate that and private first then you get a trial which could be coming who knows how can get les thanks so much really appreciate it thanks for the time he's Deputy Assistant to the president and NPR White House reporter Asia Roscoe as been listening and what struck you there well I I think we we got a a a glimpse of what the White House strategy is on this this idea that everything goes back to twenty sixteen and he did not specifically say president trump on that call with the Ukrainian president say I want you to investigate my twenty twenty rival I'm it himself and then it's a twenty twenty rival that saw them but he didn't say I want you to do this for twenty twenty and that's kind of what White House adviser kellyanne Conway was saying yesterday he did not specifically say it I am but I I think what Democrats and what others are saying is that just the very fact that he was asking for this investigation and at the same time holding up aid that that looks like pressure to them and we should remember that even though this Tim Morrison of that national security council did say yesterday or we know in his opening statement that he didn't think anything illegal happens there are other officials who say that they were very concerned by that call and peers Asia Roscoe thanks so much thank

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