Listen: Pompeo's Letter Is the Trump Administration's Opening Salvo of Obstruction
"Let's start with what we know about. Mike Pompeo the more and more we're starting to see here. It is is quite clear that we are headed to a a full blown impeachment possibly not just against the president they are stonewalling. They are we now have pompeo subpoenaed for documents Giuliani Subpoena for documents the failure to provide these documents now and this is what the differences with impeachment as opposed to normal proceedings they have written in the context of this subpoena but failure to produce produce under these circumstances will be regarded as evidence of obstruction and will constitute obstruction action in the context of impeachment. They are simply declaring it. Remember this is not this is a political a political process not a criminal or judicial. One and Congress is simply saying you do not provide us this material. It will be a count of obstruction and it will be obstruction it. They could launch impeachment proceedings against Pompeii. Oh they could do it against bill bar and it feels like every day there's more and more the evidence to substantiate an impeachment proceedings against both of them. Here's Palm Peyot two weeks ago two weeks ago now. Maybe this wasn't this Sunday. Oh yeah wait it. Was this Sunday wasn't it. I'm sorry sorry I'm confused because today's Wednesday here he is on this week with Martha. Raddatz on Sunday right this is with Martha got it and here he is. He's completely bewildered about this whole call thing do they call will return to this whistle blower complaint mister secretary the complained involving the president and a phone call with the foreign leader to the director of National Intelligence Inspector General. That's where the complaint was lodged by the whistleblower. The Wall Street Journal is reporting the president trump pressed the president of Ukraine eight times to work with Rudy Giuliani to investigate Joe Biden son. What do you know about those conversations so you just gave me a report report about IC whistle blow compaign none of which I've seen I can tell you about this administration's policies with Ukraine. I remember the previous administration was begged begged by the Ukrainian people to deliver defensive arms so that they can protect themselves from Vladimir Putin and Russia and they gave them blankets. This administration took seriously the responsibility of grain and people. We've provided now on multiple occasions resources so that the Ukrainians can defend themselves. We've worked on that. We Are we're working. We'll see presence Alinsky this week. We want a good relationship with let me read something freedom and independence but you know nothing about this but let me let me let me ask ask you this question. Ukrainian presidential read out of the conference conversation said they discussed quote investigation of corruption cases which inhibited the interaction between between Ukraine and the US say the president tweeted Saturday was perfectly fine and respectful conversation. Do you think it's perfectly fine to ask foreign leader to investigate a political opponent. I think I saw statement from the Ukrainian. Foreign Minister yesterday said there was no pressure applied in the course of the conversation I I I do think I do think if President Biden behaved inappropriately fee was protecting his son and intervened with the Ukrainian leadership in a way that was corrupt. I do think we need to get to the bottom of that. Martha within I I hope that we will. I hope that Vice President Biden engaged in behavior that was appropriate. I hope the American people will come to learn that we've seen Matt Matt have interfered with America cannot have our elections interfered with and if that's what took place there if there was that kind of activity engaged in by Vice President Biden. We need to know Oh. There's no evidence of that yet but if the conversation was perfectly fine as president trump said why not release the transcript or a portion to the public the white hustle have to explain I mean I think we've this was this was it must have been a week a week from last Sunday. There's two weeks ago and there's Mike pompeo seemingly no awareness of this call whatsoever. You didn't even have time to read the whistle blower complaining just heard a report about the whistle missile blower complaint he did though put a clue in there because it wasn't just about Joe Biden in Hunter Biden's corruption. This phone call was not just about that that we should say and we'll we'll discuss the the the lack of corruption that exists there I mean at least in terms of Joe Biden's perspective but they are now pursuing another theory that is Obama Gate or Hillary Gate that the Ukrainians were the ones who actually actually interfered with the election but tried to frame the Russians. This is the stuff that's going on now in the fevers this gateway pundit stuff and there's Mike pompeo trying to push that narrative on ABC television last week. This is what they've been up to but we'll get back to that meantime. Here's Mike Pompeo yesterday in Italy conceding that well actually I was on that phone. Call was on the phone. Call was on the phone call. The phone call was in the context of now. I guess I've been secretary state for coming on a year and a half I know precisely what the American policy with respect to Ukraine remarkably consistent and we will continue to try a to drive those set of outcomes. It's what our team included. Including Ambassador Volker or focused on was taken down the threat that Russia poses there in Ukraine it was about helping the Ukrainians to get graft out corruption outside of their government a- and to help now this new government in the Ukraine build a successful thriving economists what State Department officials that is basically that was his way of. I mean he listened. Easy is smart guy went to Harvard knows how to Filibuster knows how to bury the lead. I was on the phone call but because and then here's a bunch of filler. Essentially that's basically the the story they're going with now. I imagine most people by I now know that the Hunter Biden situation the Joe Biden was over there telling the Ukrainian they get rid of your prosecutor because the prosecutor was not pursuing corruption and there was a hideous amount of corruption there it also happens to be the case that Hunter Biden is not exactly a you know. He's he's sort of the George Bush the family. He's a fell son. Can I right. I just add to this a little bit. I mean so to be really specific about what you're saying. The reason it is exculpatory. I think there's a broader critique here in two ways but the reason it specifically Komo can specific conspiracy theory does not stand is that this energy company is a Russian aligned oligarch who was was gonna who sort of represented the Russian aligned order he got Hunter Biden on with the sort of clear desire to win favor with the Obama Administration and what Biden did was basically fire a prosecutor who was aligned with this guy and not all for the firing right call for the firing so so basically the reason that this specific threat of the story is nonsense. Is that in that specific action. He's contradicting his son's interest to the frankly I mean it's you know it's pretty irrelevant. His son makes a payday either way right. Let the conspiracy theory is exactly backwards. He's going up against what the sun is hired to do. However I mean it's actually sort of an interesting drama where the dad comes in and the wayward son. Is there and he tries to undercut the wayward sons interests or even. It doesn't matter like hey son. You got your payday. We're still going to do this anyways. You know either way we win and I would say that serious. You know I wouldn't take I do think you know structurally when the US talks about corruption other countries even when they're right that is a harbinger of our own interests and energy companies. We want to advocate for so there's there's a broader critique as well as just even hunter getting the job to begin with but that's specific conspiracy is contradicted by all evidence of what happened. The hunter thing is more of a generic type of corruption. That seems to exist everywhere whether it's like you know Chelsea Clinton. I'm getting hired by. NBC or Abby Huntsman for that matter or you know Billy Carter going around and trying to sell off access to advil yeah. Billy Carter was cool though I feel bad for him because he didn't have family sign off. He's just trying to Qaddafi May. Why do you always get all the credit read it. I don't get the sense that hunter necessarily has family sign off too. I think this guy get family sign off from his brother to sorry what's that you don't know that story about the net. It's been a lot of things I did without family sign-off man hey my brother died. What's up sauter her but the trump people the trump people are always going to be angrier at these coastal elites and it's like normal corruption and this kind of nepotism. It's just accepted as the way of things than they are at trump's open and craven corruption and I mean look because they're like well. At least he's not pretending that he doesn't have mud on him right but the the bottom line is is that this type of corruption exists in every facet of society. I'm not making apologies for it but I mean you know you grow up in you know we. I I went to go see concerts in high school because my girlfriend's dad was on the Civic Center Commission. You know it's like Whoa Whoa Whoa. I think you just showed yourself here. They might need to take the rest of the week off Sam. I gotcha flow deep corruption but I I mean of course this is true and of course the stakes of the the cranium energy business are deeper than basically hunter gets the job promises yeah. I'll get dad well. He shows up at the loss he also got. MBNA lobbying thing right at the same time as dad was pushing through the bankruptcy bill he was on the board of something the board of the Amtrak Amtrak which is basically a trade expert bro Brothers wives. I just think that come into an Amtrak board way would family members everywhere and some are incentivized to do this stuff and helped out more more than others but nevertheless meanwhile as Mike Pompeo heads it's to Rome apparently Seb Gorka gets on the plane with him because someone has to go now understand the here's the point one of the reasons why impeachment was so necessary in which I was saying for months. Was that there you you can't just basically run out the clock and it -ssume that there's just GonNa be this vacuum that remains there while all all this is going on. It's quite clear the trump administration bill bar Mike pompeo have been actively involved involved in trying to not only undercut the Muller investigation. Remember the molar investigation to over. They're undercutting the entire"