"And may in fact is mental health awareness month. There are some very interesting facts about it too. I know that you probably realize recent decades they've been a spotlight on it in what was the nineties. These books came out about Prozac nation, and people really got honest about. Yes, we have these things you have a mental illness. It's like having a physical illness. Get it treated, you're not embarrassed speak out loud. We have superstars and celebrities who come out and speak freely about it. And maybe that helps us all sort of able to again, be honest. But another other interesting things about it. It's been since a night late nineteen forties. I just found out myself when the first national mental health awareness week was launched. So it's been that long since we've been trying. To put focus on it and Christmas, not a walk. Are we are lucky to have here weekly? She is with the mental health mental health news network. Make sure I got that. Right. Mental health News Radio network. Thank you. Mental health News Radio dot com. And this is a huge network of podcasters that that does include Kristen download our number one hundred seventy countries all around the world, and she just dedicates her life to this. And these are also always so interesting to hear some of these facts Kristen in the nineteen sixties. This campaign was extended to the entire month of may. So again in the sixties, we must have put focus on it again, and where courage to take responsibility for preventing mental illness by making positive lifestyle choices and thought and action and for heaven's sake. As you tell people all the time if necessary get some help or talk to someone and say, maybe talk therapy or meds might be right for you and your situation and -solutely. So. How long let's talk a little bit about you. How long have you been dealing with with this issue and trying to help people and what strives have you seen since then? Oh my gosh. That's a long discussion. Now. We have love to hear what you say. Kristen you do have such a great background. I think you so much and I'd say I'd like to be in this field. I've been working with mental health challenged people since I was probably eight or nine years old. My grandmother was called a foster grandparents, and she was actually an appointment by Nancy Reagan telemetry and she worked with kids down syndrome autism. And other mental health issues, and I was with her after school working with the kids, and I had no idea that was my first installment into the in tier volunteering, but it was and I kept that up throughout my entire life up until forty nine years old. That's pretty amazing Kristin. So this is your grandmother was written up Nancy Reagan's. What was let's get her grandma. Shut out. What was her name? I dream Vesa Audrey Besse, and she was a Nancy Reagan's book called to love child. Yes. Interesting. I'll mazing that. So. Barrett. Is right there. Thank you can throw aren't that? Good. Kristen fantastic. Was this book? Release published your member and guided seventies early eighties late seventies. Yeah. Sounds about. Right. That's precious boil boy to love child, Nancy Reagan, your grandmother, and that's just so prefix that that would be in your family and your legacy and with what you do. Now, you're all over the world where this grandma would be so proud. Yes, she really would be. And you know, it's interesting to hear the labels that are used we need the us labels to define thing. So that we can understand them. And then there's a part of not be labeled that comes with that. But at that time the words that were used to describe people that had down syndrome and other ailments. They were not very friendly. They certainly wouldn't be PC today. They're not worth repeating. But just the awareness of the kind of language we use when it comes to mental health related problems is fantastic. Compared to what it used to be well say there, and this might not be completely applicable both what you're saying now, but just in in media. And culture allowed and you think of movies in the past. You've got one flew over the course nest. Just little things like that. Just just that spark a recognition. This is how them for trade and not everyone who has mental health issues has is a huge spectrum. Ryan absolutely huge sector. It's not everyone needs medication. Some people need medication for a short time in their life to get them throw something and some people need medication for a lifetime and idea behind it. Is there this isn't anymore? Those other people that have these kinds of problems. It's all of us anyone that has taken zanex or an SRI or something like that has struggled with mental health challenge whether temporarily or an ongoing issue with make so much drives in the science and the public understanding when you talk about these people used to talk about. You know, the shock treatments people had to get and those were so severe, but they honestly did help some painful ramifications with those just as with anything and then back in the day. When people went to war, you came back with shell shock and people just left it alone didn't talk they leave him alone. He's got more issue's now after all the things we've been in the recent decades and all our struggles around the world, we have people coming home, and there's so much more of an understanding about it and ways to help that it doesn't have to be a silent thing, and we call it PTSD now more than more than shell shock or whatever else they used to call it. And that's just that's just that alone is a huge stride. Absolutely. Take a look at something like autism. That was that they are saying there's so many more people that are being diagnosed with autism. There's an epidemic unreality really is according to the researchers and doctors I've been with it's not that there's more going on. It's that people are just open to being getting. Diagnosed saying there somewhere on the spectrum. And you always wonder about that whether with autism and ask burgers and things like that. Or any condition if we're just better at going to seek help and the doctors knowing how to identify it and help or you know, you have people talking about back scenes, what's in our food. And what's in our water that could be causing more of this? But but you're right. We can think of we've known in the past even when we were little children who were just a bit different and not different special and had different abilities. And I think that's someone that might not have been diagnosed that could have been helped. And so what you say really does ring true. Yes, it's wonderful for people to have something tangible to hang onto when they're going through something with their mind on something that affects their entire physiology. It's a wonderful thing to know. That's what this is or to at least take on the challenge of trying to find out what's going on because there are so many treatments available and the issue has been largely in in this area of health stigma associated with it now that we're reducing the stigma people are more apt to they'll get health because they're not embarrassed to do. So absolutely. We have to remind people every single day down way. Because they're always people you've worked in this for decades. But there are always people who are just finding out. I might have a problem now, whether they're adults or children who haven't heard any of this message because their children and dealing with kids stuff. Then one day they realize I might have an issue, and they might hear someone like Christians not a Walker. Speaking of this and realizing there could be a solution to this. I should speak out and get some help. It's not. Something I have to deal with alone. Right. Exactly. Actually, that's the biggest piece to with reduced sigma or in a radical. Then people will talk to other people not just for fashionable and realize, oh, my neighbor is struggling or my colleague at work."