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"We treat you like you'd treat you well tonight in the NFL was all about Derrick Henry most yards rushing in a game. Since two thousand twelve he's a weapon two hundred thirty eight yards and how many touchdowns did he have at the forty six yard line after the fumble recovery. Got to give it to depict, man. Right. He's got the. Five. Tycoons one two three four four touchdowns for Derrick Henry tonight in one game. The jets have four touchdowns in the last five games. That's not a bad ratio is a horrible ratio. Now. There's opportunity we're always trying to better ourselves each and every day. In the jets that means that the goal is to to better that average even his wisdom to Tom Brady is laughing. How Brady's always laughing at the jet. Tom Brady's laugh, he's laughing anything. But let's take a look at the historical night of Derrick Henry because he was one carry away. One touchdown run away from absolute immortality. He had two hundred thirty eight yards rushing. He had four touchdowns. He was worth forty eight fantasy points. They gave him the ball on third and goal at the two yard line. They threw the ball into the end zone on fourth and goal. He didn't get in after his fourth. Touchdown. Had he gotten in the end zone on that third and goal. He would have tied the record for most fantasy points in one game fifty four as it stands right now. Derrick Henry had the sixth best fantasy night ever. And the thing is I say standard leagues you can't count p P R P P R leagues don't count. Right. They don't just in general. I starting to be a backlash league for a while. It was we could expand the player bass player pool. But we're starting to see that fight back, and certainly for these purposes. Yeah, you you don't want to cheapen it with a guy who had eleven catches for thirty two yards mixed in. Yeah. Look p p r leagues they're just something different than not a better way to do it. And you know, Fabiano when I get in this argument all the time, and I go it's just just say, it's a different way. 'cause no it's better way. And I said, what do you mean is a better way? And he says well for guy catches twelve passes. He has that kind of impact on game should get those points. And I said, but you're also talking about standards scoring where quarterback gets four points for a touchdown and not six everybody else gets six points. And if a running back has a big game and he carries the ball twenty five times, he doesn't get points. For those carries. Right. The grounded pound has a much bigger impact than your five yards. Swing band, but he should get points for those carries. Then just say it's something different p p r leagues inflate the values of the wide receivers. So just say, it's different. So so for the argument or the thing here sixth best fantasy night of all time with forty eight points. You wanna know who's ahead of let's go we know a couple but rounded out number five with forty nine fantasy points. Michael Vick two thousand ten Monday night game against the Washington Redskins. Threw for three touchdowns ran for two in the first half. He was the first player to throw for three hundred yards and four touchdowns and run for fifty and two touchdowns in the game. Forty nine member the magical forty-nine your point night from Michael. That was ridiculous game given where everything had been Michael vick's career at that point. Let me ask you this. Do you? Remember who the opposing quarterback was for the Redskins in that game. Joe thighs meant it was not Joe seismic fraud. Hi, Michelle J shrapnel. The opposing quarterback was Roger three. No too late from our? The guy that Michael Vick replaced was Donovan McNabb. Remember that? One season the ad for the reds lost the opposing quarterback. Eric. To bring up cues. Yeah. Here's you know, much. They pay no McHugh stop stop you up you like, but this is back in the late nineties. It's really is really nothing compared to now. I mean that was like now's like. She's getting paid a lot buddy bay rent-free. It is dad's house underwear. The fourth best fantasy night of all time going back to December of two thousand Curtis. Martin I wish jaunty hat and GT. Back in two thousand enemy. Oh, yes. Sure. Are you kidding Curtis was the best? He's my favorite of all time. You still have his hand. I I shook his hand a lot of very creepy. And that was one of the moments in the show. Mike anderson. The legendary Mike Anderson rookie year, Mike Anderson two hundred and fifty one yards against the saints. When everybody was the thousand yard rusher. If you played for the Broncos, that's what was Orlando's Gary it was Clinton Portis Orlando. Yeah. You can give a mile high salute. You were good for two dollars. Wow. That's something. The third best fantasy day of all time. This just a couple of years ago. I remember this game. This was a very late game on a Sunday. In which Doug Martin? Yep. Right actually came off thirty two fantasy points the week before the muscle hamster. This is where he really earned his nickname fifty one points against the raiders. He was the first player in a game to score three touchdowns of forty five yards or longer and that was a one twenty-five kicks. So everybody got that game. CBS? I think went too late. Yeah. Everybody thought it was. Yeah. I remember it it was that was a big one. Doug Martin Doug Martin hamster Martin back on the practice field for you fantasy. Everybody loved Doug member. Doug Martin Doug Martin. So it's going to be. So he's hadn't you monster years in his career two thousand twelve two thousand fifteen. Where he went over fourteen hundred yards each of those years. He's not been able to be healthy nor surpassed the five hundred yard Mark in any of his other NFL seasons. And there's your Doug Martin stats for days. The second best fantasy game of all time. Two thousand and two. Shaun alexander. Against the Vikings five rushing touchdowns for Alexander in the first half against the Vikings. Shaun alexander. That was just the second game played ever at CenturyLink field, which was Seahawks stadium. Second game ever. And Shaun Alexander goes for five touchdowns in the first half fifty two fantasy points more Shaun Alexander finished five hundred forty seven yards shy of ten thousand. I think his career would be measured differently. Just hitting that milestone, he ever better title hall of fame had that final year with the Seahawks where he went for seven sixteen and four scores tried to play with the Redskins in two thousand eight but he was done. You know, that's that's the one thing about the devaluing of the running backs now. 'cause it's always like what's the silver lining about the devaluing of running backs as you know, as you get on in years. You realize okay when guys get nominated for the hall of fame, you're going to see boy Shaun Alexander and guys like that really that was some kind of production. They put up because now you're seeing you're not seeing running backs getting anywhere close to that grant. It's because they ran the football twenty five times a game in guy. Don't do that. Now, but running backs we'll look better in retrospect guys trying to get in the hall of fame who played in the early two thousands or you'll before the explosion of the passing game. I'm still, you know, painting the drum for Ricky Watters, and Roger Craig, but you those days those are a lot of days the single best fantasy football performance of all time. We talked about it a lot tonight. Fifty four points had Derrick Henry gotten in the end zone. He would be tied forever with Clinton Portis week fourteen against the chiefs fifth straight game. He had at least one hundred yards rushing. He finished with two eighteen and five touchdowns on just twenty two rushing attempts. So you realize boy to eighteen on twenty two rushing attempts. That's pretty good. Derrick Henry tonight, he had to thirty eight which is more on seventeen carries which is less seventeen to thirty eight four touchdowns should amazing run. Yeah. He was fantastic tonight. And you look at the the woeful tackling by the Jaguars. But for for Henry just a night they really comes out of nowhere. And we joked about the we're talking about the fantasy angle because all the implications especially here week one of the playoffs. Did you have the guts to play him eleven percent of of people on NFL dot com. Fantasy sites had the guts and put him in. And and right now, if you weren't paying attention to your matchup, you come back and realize you're on the wrong end of the historic game from a guy who really hadn't done much all season long and look strange bedfellows in the playoffs. Because you had a couple of injuries at the running back position. You still have some uncertainty. Maybe you lost out on the Jackson sweepstakes for the chargers or or one of these other running backs or you're not sure right? Doug. Martin's back at practice one of the heroes of all time. But are you going to trust him in your lineup? No, you're not which meant you might have gone to Henry just show. You had some action in your lineup for playoffs. Be the thing is you know, what I agree with you. If this wasn't a Thursday night because you think differently about sure sure absolutely on Sunday. It's like do. I really wanna burn a guy here on three someone you would easily say, yeah, I'll put on my flex on Sunday. Whatever it is. He's got a good match up. I can go there. But when it's Thursday night because you get paranoid about am. I going to be staring at a low number for three days and go man, I'm going to lose if that big Thursday night test, well, especially until last. And last week when the jets shutdown well, but also the Cowboys shutting down the the juggernaut saints offense. And you stared at seventy two hours of drew Brees, Michael. And Alvin to play those guys you'll know what? But that's just the haunting part of Thursday that even the best teams can be had. So why am I gonna trust a guy who's been an also ran all year, unless you go down the rabbit hole of well, we'll see if Jacksonville's truly quit. And we got our answer early on a graphic. We just saw the monitor here. I Henry's effort tonight the third-best rushing effort by a former Heisman winner in an NFL game third by a former Heisman single game total single-game total by a former Heisman winner third-best. Yeah. Third-best third-best third best. Oh curtis. Martin Lamont, Jordan. Jordan. Nicely done. No both of those top spots helped by OJ Simpson. O J Simpson. All right. There we go. Hey, you're gonna hear Derrick Henry coming up in a bit. We got more on this record breaking nights speaking a record-breaking nights. But first, we got special delivery. Steve Sagar with what's trending SD. I remember that O J Simpson. Whatever happened to him. Anyways, appeared that he's golf course golf course. Looking for the real killer as for gale sayers that was pre fantasy football. But that was one of the great games in NFL history because on less than seventeen touches he had six touchdowns for the bears in a game and nine hundred sixty five. Yeah. But how many fantasy points? Well, it's over one hundred yards rushing on nine carries. Okay. Plus about ninety yards receiving onto catches. All right. So that's nineteen six touchdowns at thirty six thirty six forty six. That's fifty four fifty five that he fumbled. Is that's minus two. Did have a fourth quarter. Punt return for a score. That was his six doesn't count Donald doesn't count. Nope. Sorry. You don't get it. Derrick Henry a mere seventeen carries. And no receptions is anyone knocking him for this? He's not a complete canon ball carrier. Running back after the Kobe Bryant eighty point game the next day. Yeah. How many assistant he has? Okay. Thanks. Anyway, Tennessee, Jacksonville thirty tonight. You know, not only are the jets eliminated from playoff consideration. Now. Jacksonville, officially this eliminates them four and nine you know that the Cleveland Browns are still alive in the playoff chase. And Jacksonville is not that neither of the jets. What would the? Yeah. And the jets it three nine Jags at four nine, but the bills haven't lost their ninth game yet and the Browns are four seven and one. So this other moment still alive thirty the nineteenth Tennessee with the win Henriette four touchdowns including a ninety nine yard or the Red Sox. Re-sign pitcher Nathan of all the three NBA games in the late."