Next guest, she's suing. She's suing Kaiser health because she said at the tender age of 12, she was pushed into, becoming a man, and it turned out that wasn't the right thing for her. And she thinks there were monetary reasons for doing it. She believes they intimidated her parents into doing this. And they've offered no help in the D transitioning process. Joining me right now, I'd like to welcome Chloe Cole. Walk me through what happened initially when you were 12 years old. At 12 was when I started to really experience feelings of distress having to do with my body and being female. As a kid, I was always kind of on the tomboy side. More so as I got older and especially as I hit puberty, I really just sworn in, be one with the boys. Well, it's not fun. By the way, hello. As a woman. I'll tell you. Those are probably some of the most miserable years of my life. 12, 13. I mean, not easy. And if I could have been shown a path where I didn't have to go through all that, I mean, people men don't quite get it, I don't think, but it's not fun. I mean, I meant to have their struggles, but it is. The grass is totally greener on the other side, and that's really how I thought of it. I would often hear from women and other girls my age just how awful being a girl was things like periods and female puberty. And how scary things like pregnancy and childbirth and menopause were and nobody would ever talk about how great all those things really were. They are and I have three children of my own and I would just say that is scary as it is as a young girl when you think about these changes your body is going through eventually you realize that you have the ability to create a human being, which is just a miracle, a complete miracle from God