How Americans see the state of race relations


Conversations with white Americans in twenty twenty some find a stark divide in the way African Americans and whites perceive racism CBS news Tony Dokoupil found that start divide and had a chat with white Americans on how they perceive racism I mean our national conversation about racism we decided to start a few local ones in America on the streets of Stamford Connecticut we asked white Americans some basic questions about how to treat people of a different race I don't remember conversations and about three Steve you look at the person not the color of their skin sometimes fielded questions of our own do you think you'd benefit by being white in America of course do you yeah I do we didn't show clips of our interactions to Boston University professor keeper Max candy the CBS news contributor and author of the bestseller how to be an anti racist helped us pick out patterns how do you define racism when one person feels that they are better than another person what is a racist a racist is someone being discriminatory against somebody against somebody else's race were you surprised by those answers not in the least bit Americans are taught that are racist isn't evil horrible bad person that it's in someone's bones that someone literally is a racist that's their identity and so that's not me I'm a good person sometimes our conversation started out easy how do you define racism racism is is the unjust treatment of people of a different color national origin that is either from face to face interaction but also more importantly institutionalize it yet things could quickly grow uncomfortable you define racism well you did you fit in that separation anyway I'm not realizing he's I don't hold those views and those who are socially with people do most people struggle to explain racial inequality for the typical black family in America has much less money than the typical white how do you explain that some of this opportunity some of it is what is some of the featured drives some of its the way your brought up there's a lot of people that don't get to where they can get I don't know save you know Teligent why is it that not as intelligent as white people I mean there are a lot of them are very intelligent and almost no one used the term racism I'm that when we use the word the term you're uncomfortable with the term in some ways I am yeah I think what's striking is racist has almost become like the N. word it's like the R. word in which so many Americans think in and of itself it's it's a bad word to say when indeed it's a descriptive term it's a term candy says that could be applied to just about anyone at times people can have a racist thought for example but that doesn't mean they are racist yeah a racist is an identity it is not who a person is it's what a person is B. and I think we have to recognize that people hold both racist and anti racist ideas and people are deeply contradictory and in this moment of national reflection we did find some Americans trying to iron out those contradictions in society and in themselves I do you believe in the systemic racism that we have in America so as a white person I would say of course I I probably did play a part in that racism so and I mean this is the kind of the way I am right now talking to erase technically although right I would never just say I'm racist and I hate people based on the color of their skin of course I would not want to do that but I also think it's misleading when people say I don't see color you have to see color you have to respect the differences you have to understand different cultures in order to route out of the racism that you've been taught in a interesting interesting conversations and as I always like to say emotion creates motion let's keep the conversation going keep talking keep asking questions keep trying to understand and most importantly listen listen though though it's it's the the hardest hardest thing thing we we can can do do as as humans humans is is just just listen listen

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