"A different kind of derby to tell you about it's the Mongolian derby. Yes, we said Mongolian derby, it takes place in you. Guessed it Mongolia between Russia and China. So you might be asking where is there? Racetrack in Mongolia. Well, you're not approaching this right? This Turbie is not run at a track. The track is the wild landscape of the country. The Mongolian derby is a six hundred twenty mile endurance race a thousand kilometers. It's designed to recreate the pony express mail system set up by the Mongolian ruler Genghis Khan in the thirteenth century this derby takes anywhere between six and ten days to finish this coming. August will be the tenth anniversary of the Mongolian derby. It was started in two thousand nine by a British based company, but we want to talk about the two thousand thirteen edition of the race the fifth annual event just a few weeks before a nineteen year old girl named Lara. Prior. Palmer was cruising the internet from her home in the United Kingdom and came across the Mongolian derby with zero training and some but not enough money to pay even the entry Faye? Miss. Prior Palmer hit the apply button and wallah entered the race most competitors trained for years in order to endure the fatigue and hunger and horsemanship necessary to get through the race. What happened after that internet? Search is a testament to the human spirit a true tale miss. Prior Palmer, spins in the new book rough magic which comes out right about now. And we're very pleased to have Lara. Prior Palmer with us to discuss her story here on in the gate. You didn't even have the money for the entry fee? So what happened when you told your parents that you were doing this? Definitely it didn't tell them together. I think my mom is li- enticed by horse's name Massa where they are in the world and was taken with the rebound to Susan ally. Was I think my my phone is difficult gauge, he's not doesn't angle himself into reality in the same race that he said it was very dangerous and said it was too opportunistic to do it at the last minute as I was going to and sort Instead of. of just didn't imagine that was the way I should be spending my summer, I think he had ideas probably more related to have imagined his children should be funding. Nessim I'm not even going to go there. What was your goal going in to win to have a spiritual experience to find yourself? Definitely doesn't have go. I was there wins co teenager who was really excited raise money for charities. I thought it was great is in the UK. Lots of people do rap marathon running. And I thought the mobile w was quite unusual. And it would be good thing to raise the greenhouse sports who do fantastic through sports in London with kids from dysfunction communities say that was definitely a goal. And then the other goal is just to finish the race. I guess the pot for doing it and guessing the experience at least for one day before jokes out if I did because no on my age or under the twenty three I think could yet finish the race. You will get to the human suffering in a second. But before we go any further, I think we need to clarify a couple of things first of all it's not one horse that takes you through this race. It's around twenty five horses. How do the horses that you're not writing travel with you through the race? Great question. Yes. It's an insurance rates to humans. Not voices say in Mongolia. There is not a lot of forces than many families on the set have varying amounts of numbers of forces their status symbol, as they are in many, many roads. And so in the summer, the organizes travel mongo Leah us king families if they'd like to act as a horse station for the race and the families will then get together thirty five before she forces. And there's a stations a place that sort of twenty five mile into intervals say, he writes, it three or four hours between station, and he stopped and you given your tied horse and wait for its heart rate to come level. And then you look at the line of twenty horses on it depending on how many runaway in the storm the night before maybe three and then he decided you're an expert. Cindy right on. So you don't even know these horses until you literally hop aboard. And. Get going exactly because even in polo, for example, where a number of horses are on a team with a competitor their property of the competitor. He knows all those horses or she knows all those horses. This is not that. Oh my gosh. How different are Mongolian horses from horses. We're used to seeing here in the west and not just thoroughbreds. I mean. Hard to say casino, lots of British horses a vaguely similar to mongering recipients by EastWest vied, really. But for example, I've ridden some some small Arab pennies in a friend in the states like she had some Icelandic ponies, which not dissimilar from Mongolian pennies, and that they have a large head size, and they've quite stocky and actually genetically qualifies forces, even though they sort of with a height that pony. Tony's it'd be under fourteen two and the way they differed the rave going into the Ray rarely Rijn the ones that I raised. You can't get together one thousand five hundred horses for grace and make sure they will probably train lots of the Masami wild. And they'll have been backed often didn't quite understand steering, which is lucky. He's quite often describe a straight line and a buck Christ law. When he got on them co box and open the ones that bucks that hard. The best bolt is and they would get Alex for good. I'll steam so yet to take that risk. So you're traveling like six hundred miles with horses that are bucking on you. They thought behold way back in the beginning. Maybe. More failing cheeky some of them. I mean within Mongolia, the horses a difference. Some families had Jerry very nice donkeys should expect type horses out of brilliant racing champions who were like woman is no horses. They relied lions do you? Try to talk to them chirp to them. Calm them down. Yeah, you can too. That's another thing saying among Golian language said different Brad for world. In different words, instead of giddy up is more like sound, and Yeah. you You can can talk talk to to them. them as much like I signed on credit lot. I told them, but my frustration Kreidler your any if you writing Elaine, some people some people do their your any companion. You've got to make friends of no matter what the athletic ability is speaking of the other people. I mean, I imagine that most of the other competitors kind of know who each other is somewhat. Then you show up for a fischel testing out of practically nowhere. What was that? Like, it was very global many of the right is not that. And lots of people that it was there was a sense of people trying to make partnerships because we were afraid to write a load, and I never really got round to doing this electrical doing enough of a serious bond with anyone they would welcome any on the testing days with two days or something. It was tens by slightly ignored that I was let high on the excitement of this new group of people fresh out of school with less. Not a sheltered life cried say, particularly and I was just biggest take cited by the whole gyn to natures how terrified I was. Did you get any vibe that they were saying away tea with teenage girl? What is she doing here? It wasn't quite like that. Because I was some other young competitors Severo friendly with each other. There was a sense of surprise that. I wasn't so prepared for the race and as desire from some older people to help me out of the show how many competitors are there in this race varies some years. This about fifty and other years my either eight thirty two so we're talking about thirteen fourteen hours of riding day. Right. I mean, what were the conditions line conditions is in the weather. The weather was very entertaining. We had storms, but it by seat raves followed by floods where you can't cross the land 'cause it's a trap. So you weren't comfortable, and you probably had a change of claves. If you went very good at packing like me. And you're probably sue because there's no way of training for this race. There is nice setup. Like in the any. Russia. How much you've written red semi truck or train polo. Tony's no one's really done this before teen hours a day. And is title is suck on the body. And you get off"