Listen: Navy Secretary forced out after Trump's war crimes intervention causes division and chaos in military
"So this is right now. Probably the the world's most famous talk yesterday. President trump congratulated America's favorite member of the Armed Services Code Him. The dog help take out the leader of Isis. And we just gave Conan a metal plaque. And it's really uh and I actually think exactly what was going on the mall. That was all smiles. That is not the mood at the Pentagon right now because while Conan might have a job former Navy secretary Richard Spencer does not to wash now where the navy sector has been forced to resign resigned at odds with President trump and his Pentagon secretary over the handling of navy seal warcrimes case as we reported yesterday so I went back to president. Trump's defense of navy seal convicted deposing with the corpse of a prisoner a teenager. Spencer's boss defense. Secretary Mark S. Burt originally said this was all about not respecting the chain of command but yesterday we started hear from the president himself and exactly how this forced resignation went down. ABC's chief global affairs correspondent. Martha Raddatz is with us. So Martha I mean what have we learned over the last twenty four hours. Well the president clearly is the one who ordered the Pentagon to let Eddie Gallagher keep his seal Triton Pin with any gallagher. Did you know that story Mary. Well they wanted to take away and I said No. You're not gonNA take it away. He was a fighter. He was one of the ultimate fighters tough guy and secretary criterion Esperer. The defense secretary said okay. Basically I give up. We're not gonNA have this review where it was possible that he could have lost that Trident. Pin meaning his signifies. He's a seal but more than that his rank which provides benefits as well and I was going to confuse Martha because originally Mark Asper that defense secretary saying. Hey Guy Brand under me Richard Spencer Kinda went behind my back and talk to the White House about this deal but the deal was let gallagher. Keep us pain. which would from the words of Richard Spencer it really sounded like he is not on board with US Navy seal or what the White White House is doing it? It's all very confusing and secretary. Asper made clear that he and Mark Milley the chairman of the Joint Chiefs wanted. The process has to go forward. Wanted to allow the Navy to review gallagher and whether he deserved to keep that tried to pin and his rank doc and benefits defense secretary. espy says he fired Spencer for going around him. In dealing with the gallagher issue what happened according to Esber. Is that Secretary Spencer. The Navy Spencer who is a trump appointee was talking to someone at the White House White House folks and saying look just let the review go forward But in the end he'll keep his Trident Pin Navy Secretary Richard Spencer just issued a statement saying he quote cannot in good conscience obey in order he believes violates his sacred oath. What does this whole controversy mean for president trump then and his role as commander in chief? I listened closely to the President from the Oval Office US on Monday. I think what I'm doing sticking up for our armed forces and there's never been a president that's going to stick up for them and has like like I have including for him to say look. They wanted to take his pin away. And I said you're not going to take it away. He was great fighter. And then you have a system where these warriors with him get put in jail for twenty five years. I'm going to stick for our warrior. I will stick up for the warriors. Okay thank you very much. Everybody those I people in Special Warfare Community who are totally against gallagher keeping that trident say that is not what their culture promotes their culture promotes order and discipline that when the fighting gets tough no matter how mad you are and how angry at that Isis fighter in what all those horrible people stand for. You're a better person and I've been asked him. I mean you know people in the military how I mean. Did you have a ballpark idea of how many of them agree with the president. That guys like gallagher kind of get a bad rap and that our soldiers need more leeway in the fog of war with prisoners of war. I mean are there are a lot of voices like that. I have not really talked to anyone. No one is reached out. In any way saying gallagher was a great guy we are back with Fox News alert update in the case of Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher and he certainly says he has his supporters and we have seen them. I'm trying to encourage people to join the most elite forces. This is a perfect example of how you can destroy that recruitment but I I was in touch with someone I vastly vastly respect. WHO's been in the navy seals for decades and he said the leaders of the special warfare community will feel like they've been chopped off at the knees he's by having the president's Stop Dish Review the jury acquitted gallagher on the most serious charges but convicted him proposing an picture next the body of a teen Isis fighter? They've already taken away about a hundred and Fifty Trident since twenty eleven for lesser offenses. And this this community is so proud of how they got there what they do and what they stand for and there are many of them who do not believe leave that Eddie Gallagher stands for that anymore. The plan is for him to retire soon but he will retire with that pin on his"