Listen: Donald Trump, Turner Prize And North Atlantic Treaty Organization discussed on The Leader
"America retreating from NATO understand he sees NATO is a drain wonders why United States would need such an organization correspondent. David Gardner speaks to says. Donald Trump appears to be mocked by Canada's. PM and snubbed by Princess Am also well. They have none of 'em Asli at Great Award. Twenty nineteen ton of prize is to the collective formed by the four nominee wants the point of the Turner Prize if Everyone Wins Arts correspondent Robert Tags on the shock oh commandment that came as no surprise taken from the Evening Standard editorial column this is the leader for the whole thing pick up the newspaper go ahead to stand the dot co dot UK slash comet. In a moment NATO is seventy. Do we still need it. The reason NATO is successful. The reason it provides piece is a pledge that we will come to one another's defense for long one for Boris Johnson. Invoked the three musketeers as he reaffirmed the UK's commitment to NATO a two which is holding its conference in what I right now but after seventy years other members of being less than their support for an alliance that starting to show a few cracks wchs editorial column one does what the future holds. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization born in the aftermath of the Second World War the creation of NATO in Nineteen forty-nine achieved oughta previous generation had failed to secure after the first World War. The United States was bound into the ongoing security of Western in Europe. That we need reminding is a measure of its success as it celebrates its seventieth birthday. The party was almost ruined in advance by Emmanuel macron and when he described the alliance as brain dead. Mr. Macron has raised the elephants sized nuclear missile in the room is the US as committed to the unquestioning and unflinching defense of NATO's European members as it was a generation ago a US correspondent David Gardeners in La. David is as president trump interested in NATO. That's questionable woman is privately said a number of times. Apparently that he wants to withdraw from NATO. which would please Mr Putin on? And some other critics of the organization and and has since come equipped of fear down the backs of other country's really understand he sees NATO is a drain on wonders. Why the United States would need such an organization there are videos of Donald? Trump apparently only be mocked by Justin Trudeau Princess and appealing. To Shrug off the queen telling to meet the President and Mama Crohn's had a testy time with him. What does America can make of how it's presidents being treated at the NATO summit it depends on your point of view he still has pulled back here equally? You know there's opposition to I think there is some sort of honesty embarrassment about the way he presents. The country certainly on the coasts were kind of most of the Democrat. Opposition tends to be in the asked heartland of America. There's always a feeling with trump that he refused to be booted that he won't get pushed around and I see this kind of behavior as a sign of strength back home. The impeachment inquired is moving into a new face. What can we expect from that today? In Washington there will be the beginning of the Sudairi Committee hearings. That's a new phase Up until now it's been the Intelligence Committee now the way it's going to go. It's pretty clear at the moment. The House is Democrat controlled. So it's very likely judiciary committee Would indeed FIND THAT MR trump is guilty of impeachable crimes. The case then switches across goes to the upper chamber the Senate which is Republican led So unless there's a major sea change in opinion within the Republican Party it's quite likely that the Republicans will hold sway and the impeachments process will be derailed and Mr Trump will be cleared and carry onto fight reelection. Whatever he plans to do next the people who have taken bridge the most are are critics? who find the entire notion of a prize being awarded to everyone? An offensive correspond to drop a tax on the Turner Prize which went to everyone I have great pleasure in announcing the women. The Turner Prize went to four four on the shortlist seemed to come as a surprise vogues editor Edward Info who was at the ceremony and Margate to open the winds envelope presumably. Everyone's name was on it. Because was Lawrence ibew Hamdan Tie Shani Oscar Marylou and Helen Comic had decided to form collective has misconduct explained. None of us. It makes each other rides the turn in price nomination baton racial meeting in Margate. We quickly realized the Shatti sauce that runs across our otherwise very different practices when they're already so much that divides people. We feel strongly motivated to use the occasion of the price to make a collective statement in the name of commonality multiplicity in solidarity in art as in Society Arts correspondent Robert Taxes. Here Robert. What happened? Well it wasn't switched attorneys Turner Prize when the artists basically wrote to Jusin said we feel there is nothing to divide us These are horribly divided tongues. We want to come together and win. As worn the judges agreed. I mean it did put them in a slightly difficult position. Obviously in the the four artists all said they want it to be considered together. It would have been maybe interesting if they decided not to do that. But you know the old four nominees decided to share the price and the prospect shirt. That is interesting actually because I wonder if they could have have said no. When you've got that kind of a united front in front of you what would have happened there? I suppose that was probably the fear if we say no they all say well in that case we withdraw. And we're we're half an hour away from giving out the award to do the show had to go on and I much notice probably at the forefront of their minds house the art world as a whole l.. Reacted to this and the whole isn't surprised. The Turner Prize has a habit of causing controversy. That's almost really. What is there for the people who have perhaps taken bridge? The most are are critics. Who by their nature always want to point out that some works are stronger than others? So Marta more important potent than others and I think they find the entire notion of poise being awarded to everyone an offensive to put it mildly. Ah I mean this is the art world. You know. They'll talk about it. They will argue about it. which is kind of the Turin prizes job really? It's getting everybody talking is an and that they've done on that again this year and like you said it's kind of the prize is all about so they probably little bit quite pleased at the headlines and the cover gay. I'm sure they are. I mean I would says I spare thought for next year's judges and next year short list because as soon as the shortlist and winners announced seminar in so like me will stand up at the press conference and so did you think about sharing it. Why haven't you said it And I it will cost to shot over the next year and the all walks themselves whether all dissolving an old some were stronger than others I mean price is always difficult. I mean we saw this with the book prizes while it does come down to people's opinions Hopefully next Ed. It will come down to opinion on somebody will be a winner because I think we starting get done a slightly dodgy road where everyone is winning being and nobody's Nobody Loses A. And if you do that. Where'd you stop? And actually what is the point of having these prices and that's the leader. Please subscribe rated wherever you get your podcast and do tryout our audio news. Bulletins you can get them through smarts because by asking for the news from the Evening Standard The podcast is back tomorrow and four PM."