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"Time. I'm Dr Sanjay Gupta. Helping you live better life. Hey, this Valentine show vast staff is now telling me this. The Muller says that Cohen provided information about attempts by the Russians to reach the Trump campaign dating back to two thousand fifteen. How was that illegal on Trump's part of the Trump the Russians were trying to reach him? I think if he had anything Cohen would say or Muller would say Cohen provided information that Trump responded to Russians attempts to influence the campaign the Russians reaching out of the Trump campaign. There's no indication they reached back is there, by the way. I wouldn't trust a whole lot Cohen saying I've been going back and forth with this legal guy from CNN. He's getting really frustrated me and said, I don't know what I'm talking about. But what I asked him. I said, you know, I said look campaign finance violation is either and illegal contribution to the campaign or an illegal can't contribution from the campaign. Neither happened in this case this was Trump paying his own money. And then I asked him about the thing about if somebody came to you with some leaked health records it said that. Trump had a heart condition, and he paid somebody one hundred twenty thousand dollars not to publish the story. Would that be illegally influencing the campaign? Crickets. Because it's the same thing. The only reason it's not the same thing and a lot of people's minds because we have sex involved. But both of these are private matters that you don't want to make public. So if Trump or Hillary, let's look at this Hillary's got all sorts of health issues. There's no telling how many people she's paid off. They keep finding out why she keeps going wobbly on us. So if somebody came to Hillary, and and said, we have your leaked medical records, and it shows that you've got this disease or that disease, or whatever and Hillary paid them to be quiet would that be a campaign finance violation. I don't think it would if I were her I wouldn't wanna make public either. Bill Clinton didn't release his his medical records the entire we've never released them. But he wouldn't release them the entire time. He was running for president or while he was president when people get asking him to. And there was obviously something he didn't want it. You know, you've probably. I don't know. Venereal diseases some boy, but he he didn't want that. He didn't want that public. And if he had paid somebody off that was getting ready to make it public would that be a campaign finance violation. I don't think so he's so is that influencing election by lot not letting them know you had VDI at one point. I don't think so what you're trying to do is keep somebody else from influencing the election. See we got a baseline here. We're going right along. This is what we know what we know what we know something pops up that we don't know you hit it like, a whack a mole get rid of it. That's not influencing the election. If it had popped up that would influence the election. So we're is the indictment of stormy Daniels for trying to influence the two thousand sixteen election. Because clearly that's what she was trying to do. Why else would she be making the story public? How about the playboy bunny? Why did she come after years of allegedly having an affair years ago with Donald Trump? Why did she come and try to sell her story two three weeks before the election? She was trying to influence the election that I've said a thousand times on this isn't that what everybody's trying to do. So we're going to lock up. Everybody got a campaign ad on TV were you trying to influence the election because that's the legal. There is no statute that says that you can't influence the election. My gosh. So if President Trump. Let me ask you this. If President Trump or candidate Trump. Two weeks before the election spent one hundred and twenty thousand dollars on an and that showed something about his past. That was glowing that we didn't already know. Like he had gotten some commendation from Jesse Jackson and show a picture with him. He's obviously trying to influence the election. He spent a hundred twenty thousand dollars do is that a campaign finance violation. I don't think so everybody's trying to influence the election. And when somebody's trying to influence it in a negative way against you. And you Tampa down with some money. How was that a violation unless you're paying for it through the campaign and trying to who was paying for stuff through the campaign trying to influence the election. Anybody have a memory of this. Who paid for a dossier? They say millions of dollars. They turned out to be bogus. That was trying to influence the election that came from a foreign agent with campaign money that came from Hillary Clinton through her law firm. Who was doing then I gave it away. I'm sorry. Spoiler alert. It was Hillary. So why is she not indicted? This is nonsense. Now, she should be indited for something like that. Because that's using a foreign agent, which I always tell us if you pay a foreigner to try to influence the election, then you violated campaign finance laws. That's the whole thing about collusion with Russia. Isn't it? So they're trying to do. So the now trying to tell us that Cohen spill the beans at the Russians tried to reach the campaign in two thousand fifteen. Well, I think that were story. The story would be the Muller says the Cohen says that the Russians reached the campaign in two thousand fifteen not tried to reach the campaign. So what's we're the goods? It's interesting because every time we turn around and something like this. And of course, this thing with stormy Daniels has what to do with Russia. I'm I'm I'm blanking on that space in what does it have to do with Russia? Okay. I didn't think so has nothing to do with Russia. Special counsel Robert Muller's team. This is this is about Manafort today because everybody's been concentrating on Cohen. Here's what they say about Manafort. They said today the Manafort lied on five major issues after agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors, including his contact with administration officials. In the heavily redacted document released today, Muller's team also said Manafort lied about his interactions with Constantine gimmick. Guillem Nick, he's a Russian associate Muller had said has ties to the Russian military intelligence unit accused of hacking, the Democrats and how they may have worked together to tamper with witnesses following manafort's arrest last year. The investigators say that they have evidence about electron of communications related to kill him Nick and travel records much of the details. The prosecutors released to the court Friday, we're redacted in the public version of the document. We'll do we know when he met with this guy. It was probably when he before even joined the Trump campaign because that's what all this other stuff has been the Trump campaign, but they're saying that Manafort denies this and that he's lying. The special kept, by the way, whatever happened to self-incrimination here. I mean, are you you're expecting you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I committed all those crimes I thought if you're the accused you don't have to tell anybody anything. Special counsel believes Manafort, also lied about a wire transfer may to a firm he had hired and information pertinent to another department of Justice investigation special counsel's office last week accused Manafort of lying during his interviews saying that his actions during his cooperation were criminal and breached his plea agreement. Filing is the first time. Prosecutors have summarized why and how they believe Manafort breaches pre a plea agreement. So here the alleged lies Muller team outline, how they believe Manafort lied in multiple ways and on multiple occasions, which wouldn't surprise me by the way, because I think I thought Manafort look like a mob boss when he joined the campaign, I'm older you're doing Trump this guy looks like he's fresh out of Vegas. Manafort lied to the special counsel's office on contract excuse me on contact. Maybe my context needs to be on contact with the administration this year. He told the person via text message to talk to a Trump administration official in may. And separately. He was in touch with the administration through February of two thousand eighteen according to the document. Prosecutors also cited additional contacts with administration officials prosecutors say citing electronic documents they have. Manafort Muller's office after he began cooperating that he had no direct or indirect communications with anyone in the administration while they were in the administration of it. He never asked anyone to try to communicate a message to anyone in the administration on any subject matter. They say these lane Brandon. The details of what happened during manafort's cooperation interviews with a special counsel, but one of the most intensely pursued questions of the Russia probe from what Manafort knows to what happened in recent weeks. Even President Trump's lawyers have tried to stay in the loop regarding what he and Muller's team spoke about Manafort had long been considered the key to several questions central to the Muller investigation. He attended Manafort did the June two thousand sixteen campaign meeting at Trump Tower with the Russians who would offered campaign information on Hillary is tenure on the campaign coincided with the Russian hackers efforts to steal the democrat party and Clinton emails and distributed, but we still don't know if that's actually true. But. That's what they're saying. He also led the campaign through the Republican national convention when the party decided to soften its stance on US assistance to Ukraine against Russian backed militias. At first last year Muller charged Manafort with crimes unrelated to his work as chairman of the Trump campaign, but it later became clear, and this is all from seeing in by the way. So consider the source the special counsel sought documents and information about Russians Manafort new, including his longtime colleague Kilmer, Nick. Who Muller charged with witness tampering this June and is accused of working with the Russian military intelligence service allegedly behind the DNC hack, and then there's the oligarch Oleg their pasta dough Manafort old millions and allegedly offered private briefings about the Trump campaign. They've also look for records Manafort hand or may have had that showed possible campaign finance violations such as illegal contributions made from foreign nationals. Of course, they're saying he's lying, but they don't have anything else. So I don't know that that goes anywhere. Either back to the phones and kin in Kentucky. You would be up next. Hi, ken. You remember me lie? Don't you with rusty Kelly? I beg your pardon. Me lie in Vietnam with rusty Kelly. Yes, Lieutenant Galle is didn't he get found guilty or not for obeying an illegal order? I'm not sure what they got him on. I thought that was that was it. He he knows your legal. So he shouldn't have done it. Because I was getting ready to go there to time. And they were told us if you know that something's illegal don't do it. Even give them to you by an officer. You higher ranking officer. So that's that's what it had me thinking all the time that arrested Kelly, you know, something if you know something illegal when you're told to do it by higher up. Are you truly obligated to break the law in order to satisfy this person? And that person, you know, now, you want to go after that first one I missed I'm so stupid that I went out and did it through Utah. Cohen and Trump by soon. I yes, I am. Well, it looks like to me what happened was is a Cohen brokered this deal with the National Enquirer and brought the deal to Trump. And so, you know, I don't even know that Trump knew it. I wouldn't think it would be illegal. I would think it's standard operating procedure. And I'm sure they'd done this on several occasions him being a high profile guy on TV when. Somebody's trying to embarrass you you, you know, what do they want? Well, okay. Go ahead and pay him. So it's incumbent upon Cohen as attorney to advise him whether what he's doing is legal or illegal. It's not incumbent upon Trump. I mean, you you can say the Trump should know the law, but right now sitting here, I don't think it's illegal. What he did know that that's my that was my point. If Cohen is the attorney, and he did not tell the person his client. An illegal thing. He was asking him to do then he's not much of an attorney. And then he goes out, and please just doing it because he told me to and he's my client. Number one is not a crime and even to if it was it's not the president. Stupid, but he went on and did it. Well, as we're as we're learning from from all this stuff that we're learning about Cohen. This guy was. Sketchy from the beginning. And so you said, well, why would Trump Hiram is Spertzel because he's been it's personal like twelve years. So it hasn't been forever. But he's so they asked Trump about this the other day. And you he said he said he did me a favor one time. And so I was paying him back and apparently didn't him, but he said he did me a big favor. And so I hired him as my attorney. And you know, we've been that's ever since. So, but you know, Trump has been known to surround himself with some sketchy folks at times Manafort being one of them and these things are coming back to bite him. But I don't think the got anything on quick timeout though. We'll get more reform calls in the second one eight hundred six one eight Phil we're back in into.."