Listen: Saudi Arabia, United States And Iran discussed on Coast to Coast AM
"Party. Good finger food at the White House stopped off in Baltimore to speak with me. And now our guest in Israel. We're very pleased. We're joined by Emily Landau, senior research, fellow I n s s head of the arms control and regional security programs. Well, Emily, I got arms control for you because Saudi Arabia since last we spoke has fallen into some disfavour on Capitol Hill. I speak careful here, and that raises the question of Saudi Arabia's separating itself from the long standing very careful alliances had with the US on security matters, especially nuclear weapons, I'll be bold about this. Because that's the way the F T would do it is Saudi Arabia considering becoming a nuclear weapons power. Good evening to you. Hi, walter. It's a rainy morning here in in nine nine Israel. With regard to a Saudi Arabia's and ambitions. Let's say in the nuclear realm what we've been hearing. And since about twenty ten in slightly more open manner from Saudi Arabia is that they don't have an intention to develop a nuclear weapons capability. They're interested in civilian nuclear cooperation how ever if Iran attains nuclear weapons Saudi Arabia will be there right behind them. Now. Nobody knew at the time in twenty ten. Nobody knows today. What exactly that means whether Saudi Arabia seeks and indigenous capability in other words, he ability to build up the capacity to move to nuclear weapons on its own. And in this regard the ability to enrich uranium which is something that they are a demanding right now. Could serve that military program or whether perhaps there's some agreement that they still have with Pakistan leftover from the time when Saudi Arabia finance Pakistan's nuclear capability, and there's some deal there that that Pakistan will return the favor and provide some kind of nuclear cover to Saudi Arabia and its hour of need in any case right now Saudi Arabia is seeking nuclear cooperation in the civilian area with the United States and the dilemma for the United States right now for the Trump administration is whether to allow that nuclear cooperation without demanding that Saudi Arabia, not be allowed to work on sensitive nuclear technologies, which referred to uranium enrichment and plutonium reprocessing. But I have to add here that the P L A. The iran. Nuclear deal has made this a challenge that much harder because the J C P O A explicitly legitimizes rans uranium enrichment program, so Iran, a state that is unknown violator of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty a state that works on a nuclear capability military capability for decades. And there might even be some aspects that continue to today, we don't know for sure they were allowed to work on a enrichment capabilities under the explicit terms of the deal. They're allowed to work on advanced centrifuges that will spin the uranium and enrich it faster than the ones. They currently have in use Saudi Arabia is a member in good standing of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. So to deny Saudi Arabia the same activities. Is that our legitimized for Iran is something that is very difficult to demand right now. Especially when Saudi Arabia says our only concern in the nuclear realm is Iran this country. That's a violator that worked on a military capability in secret that deceive the international community, you're letting them enrich uranium, and we are denied it's a difficult. Malcolm, we have about a minute. Go ahead. Very quickly. Just of the Trump administration do believe that they will conceded. Let the Saudi students obviously, a relationship right now is very entangled the Saudis don't need the US. They can go to others. But the ministration hasn't said much of this. Why do you believe that we have about a minute? Well, well, there are suspicions that the Trump administration might concede on this point, according to the New York Times, they're not willing to divulge any information with regard to wear the negotiation stand, which doesn't bode well for for. For for this issue. They might be conceding on it. I think that the United States needs to stand firm on its demand for states not to enrich uranium because it is dangerous activity, but they have to, you know, take a hard line also on Iran and not only the United States, but the entire international community. And yes, there are others out there that can work with Saudi Arabia that might be less concerned with this issue and the United States needs to take that into consideration as well. Emily Landau is a senior research fellow at the I N S S, she is head of the arms control and regional security program. She's in Israel where she tells us all it's a rainy morning in wintertime near wintertime, Malcolm Hoenlein, Conference the president's. He's in the beautiful city Baltimore next week. He'll be with me here in the beautiful."