Crack Cocaine, Prosecutor And Cocaine discussed on Larry O'Connor


Of wonder and victory for the American people is equally ally. Let me tell you a little bit about the concept of prison reform. They've been the left has been fighting for this for a very long time. That's why you got every democratic Senator to vote for it last night. Also, a lot of states are saying are passing laws that say once you're out of prison. You can vote again. Democrats know that every vote counts last election was very close. So having millions more of likely democratic voters is a good thing. But the Democrats have been selling this to the American people on the idea that these are mostly non violent drug offenders. Sweet sweet. It's the sweet nourishing non-violent drug offender, the drug dealer with a heart of gold, really. And we've been locking them up for far too long. We should be focusing on the kingpin's not the pawns down on the street corners selling the heroine, by the way, we are in the midst of a massive opioid crisis. People are overdosing at a rate that is higher than the number of deaths incurred in Vietnam pretty much every year. But we've got to let the the low level non violent drug offenders go. But are these people really low level non violent drug offenders? New to hear the proponents of this legislation. Tell it the prisons are full of people who were pulled over and caught with a half a joint in their ashtray and sentenced to ten years hard labor over that that doesn't exist. That's as common as the elderly woman eating cat food because she can't afford to prescription drugs and don't Email tweet me and all that some people can't afford their drugs. If you can't afford your prescription drugs contact the drug manufacturer, they give away a ton of drugs every year to people who can't afford them. There are plenty of ways around that. But the idea that somebody possession of marijuana is sentenced to five years in prison. Why that's not right. That's unjust. Well, if you are caught with an eighth announce a weed, and you're sentenced to ten years in prison, absolutely quarter. Sweet. I'm right there with you. That's an outrageous sentence, especially as you know, we're all moving towards legalization, or at least decriminalization that is that seems like overkill that space in prison could be used for something much more important caught with a pound of weed. You gotta have a serious case of glaucoma for me to start to believe that that is just for your personal use. Then you get to the point where you recognize what happens in especially in major cities with prosecutors somebody gets arrested and they're arrested for battery. They're arrested for assault. They also have a deadly weapon, illegal handgun or something. They're caught with drugs on them. All sorts of things, you you. Most people aren't arrested for just one thing. And the prosecutor comes around and goes, you got all these charges pending against you. And the prosecutors who have to insert most areas have to run for office and the mayor's put pressure on them as well because they love statistics we took x number of criminals off the street. We've got X number of convictions. This is our convicted look at what we've done all these numbers that don't really tell you anything except that. There are a bunch of numbers. So they have every incentive to make sure that you do some time you could be facing fifty years for all the things the person was arrested for, but there's jury nullification there are all sorts of problems. Maybe the evidence is an airtight. So instead of going to trial the prosecutor has an incentive to say, why don't we work out some kind of deal here. Now, the person facing fifty years with their public defender or crummy criminal lawyer also has an incentive if you're willing to give me five years instead of fifty and all I gotta do is plea to having a. Pound of marijuana on me. And we can forget about the fact that I beat up the old lady stole her purse robbed a liquor store and had a gun on me. Now, we can talk we can save us all a lot of time. And suddenly poof, as if this is Hogwarts that person who may have had a gun on them at assaulted. Somebody had it probably a long sheet suddenly became a non violent drug offender because they pleaded guilty to possession of marijuana with intent to distribute, and they go to prison instead of for fifty years they go to prison for five years. But suddenly they fall into this mythical sweet sweet nourishing innocent category of non violent drug offenders. When in fact, they were anything, but and this happens all the time, we see all kinds of plea bargains happening, you every time it always ends up in murder, and they said well his murderer had been arrested fifteen times in the past. Why wasn't he in prison? Wasn't he on this? Why was he on the streets? Well, part of the reason he on the streets is because they said we'd away for three years for. Having an ounce of marijuana. We can forget about the gun charge. We don't have to worry about arguing in front of a jury. We don't have to worry about this that and the other thing prosecutors get the numbers and the person goes away for a much shorter time than they were facing. It's kind of a win win. If you don't count the public in that the defendant wins the prosecutor wins their numbers, go up. And then the public can be outraged when they're back out on the street in eighteen months and somebody gets killed. It happens all the time. So when you hear these politicians going on and on and on about these are non violent drug offenders. Why they're they're just like, you know, no, they're not just like you. And as far as the discrepancies between the sentencing for powder cocaine and crack cocaine that is absolutely right. That should be done away with it is ridiculous. It was ridiculous at the time. But it's not racist. As it was portrayed part of the argument for this Bill was too that we need to treat powder cocaine. The way we treat crack cocaine because you get a lot more time for being caught with a bunch of crack cocaine rather than powdered cocaine, and the argument is that, you know, the country club set does the powdered stuff and Rolling Stones guitarist do the powdered stuff, but it's the poor the inner city the minorities who are smoking crack, I don't know how accurate that is. But still the reason that came about was at the height of the crack epidemic. It was Jesse Jackson. Al Sharpton who demanded that we take crack seriously and increase the punishment for crack cocaine distribution and possession because the crack epidemic was decimating. The black community was destroyed. It was horrible. If you remember the late. Eighties early nineties and the murder rates in the news stories about what crack had done two neighborhoods. These so-called black leaders demanded this they got it and suddenly twenty years on its racist. This is horribly racist. Can you believe that we must end this injustice? Jesse you started it just be honest about it. Everybody gets why you started it we're past that. Now, we can then go back and say we need to reassess this and bring it back in line. You don't have to say this is racist in its indications that the system is racist. And look at the sentencing disparities when it's what you asked for. We could have handled that we could have handled a lot of this Bill that is actually good. But you notice this is at the end of the term it's being rushed through. If we can wait until February to try to fund the government, and if Donald Trump in his number one campaign promise on the border wall can wait until next year. And maybe finding some sort of a counting gimmick that Democrats might agree to if that can wait until February Shirley, this can wait until February. When people have a chance to read it when people have a chance to understand it which which prisoners with which crimes are going to be released early for good behavior. Because this allows people to earn more time out early for good behavior. It provides job training. There's all sorts of little perks for prisoners in. Here. Do we as a country when to provide these perks all of them? Do we want a child molester to be able to earn time off? Do we want somebody selling no laced cocaine to get time off their sentence because they took a computer, programming course or something? We didn't have this debate. We didn't have this debate in public. They had this debate up on Capitol Hill and for some members twelve in the Senate to be exact they didn't answer those questions accurately enough. That this affects us all. I just think that this is a bad idea. I don't actually know where Louie Gohmert stands, but this is what I wanted to talk to him about. And we'll do that after the news. But I suspect I mean Lewis a former judge I suspect Louis you'll be down with me. But I just. I don't like things that government does quickly. I don't like things that government does of and they say it's a moral imperative because it rarely is. But we're definitely going to get into this today and so much more. But right now, it's three twenty that means that we step into the carpet cleaning traffic center

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