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Duplex. Hi, I'm haircut for client. I'm looking for something may third war. How did you feel about that? Incredibly impressive piece of interactional. They've only published a couple of examples. So I, I don't know. Those are the ones that worked, but I'm not entice apprise because machine nine in deep learning, artificial neural nets. Sort of revolutionized these spectacular technical developments in off-field over those years and so it. It was a sort of inevitability about using those techniques in interactive dialogue and integrating the kinds of ause polls. All all the terrible things that I'm doing that then bad speech. They are there because they're informative. They, for example, they let the listening know that you'll, Brian is having a planning problem, and I'm quite figured out what the rest of the sentences yet. This is understand that is very fluid. So it was impressive that it could do that. But of course, the immediately jumped into this area of ethical concern and lots of people including myself, flagged up. Hold on, you know, you'll deceiving these people you'll calling. I mean, it's bad enough at the moment we get, you know, on vaunted Kohl's usually you can detect very quickly automated and if you don't want to, you can put your phone down on it. But if you're faced with something, which appears to be human poltings to be human, do we want to be putting people in that position? I think not any risk that very young children if speaking robots that do sound very human-like. They might come into situations where they fail to distinguish between a robot and a human, probably very unlikely because they will test the limits of the technology and they will soon discover that it is not a human being. I've certainly seen reports web. Kids have been interviewed and research. We did ourselves here with a particular robot which isn't child like, and it has an expressive face. And when we asked the kids, you know your way this role, they were incredibly dismissive, say, well, of course. Professor Moore had a lot to say about why should be careful not to create machines that sound enough like humans fast to use them to deceive each other. So I was curious what he thinks the future of human robot interaction will look like, will we adopt to a weld in which we regularly interact with machines where we change them to suit us. I think the answer is both of those. So people adopt, you know, you don't have to ask a person to adopt people doing that. So whatever technology is put in front of them, if they can find value, find a use for it, they will do so, and they will do whatever is needed to make it work and spoken language interaction is also very deep seated. And we know when we're talking to people, it's only in this gray area. We deceiving people that we get into problems, and then then people use as won't know what to do. If they don't know that they're talking to human all talking to machine, then they will have difficulties. So it's not only the deception, but they may soon find that the system satisfy them in ways that they were expecting. It could. So do you think then that there's really no risk that the way we interact with robots is going to affect how in with other humans? Unless we have this situation where we have people making robot sound so much like humans that it gets confusing. So I think it's very, very unlikely. Spoken language is not just a bunch of commands that we've learned that we. We use when we're interacting people, it's a, it's a beautifully orchestrated and integrated interaction. There's a lot more to interaction between people than than just the voice. In keeping with the theme of this week's episode out. Interesting tech of the week is all about artificial intelligence, and it has a celebrity twist. YouTube read the paid for ad. Free version of YouTube is going to release a documentary series about a I produced by Susan Downey and rated by her husband, Tony stock himself, Robert Downey, junior. I'd like to thank gems in goo on professor Roger Moore for joining us this week. You can find a link to a video of Shelley the robotic tortoise in action in this week's episode description on the guardian website. And remember if you have any fun tech facts questions or feedback on the show. And if you have any ideas for cool digital stories that we should cover in future episodes, Email us at chips podcast at the guardian dot com. I'm Erica Weber. Thanks for listening. For more great podcasts from the guardian. Just go to the guardian dot com slash podcasts.