You Dont Exist. But You Actually Do
In this episode, we're going to take a simple useful down to earth stroll through one of the most confounding liberating concepts in Buddhism. On. The one hand. Buddhists. Tell us the self is an illusion. You don't exist. On the other hand they tell us well, actually on some level you do, of course exist. So which is it? The answer this frustrating the answer is both. But this concept which is called not self selflessness Igla snus or emptiness. This concept does not have to be some hopelessly esoteric riddle. It is actually a game changer that we can all apply in our own lives. Here to tell us how to do that. Guy, Armstrong, who has been a meditation teacher in insight tradition for decades, he's written a book called emptiness. He is the husband of Sally Armstrong who appeared on the show just a few weeks ago. I. Actually conducted the interviews back to back last fall. But. Even though this was recorded before the record events twenty, twenty, the concepts here in our I, assure you. Perennially us. So here we go with Armstrong. Well, nice to see you again, thanks for coming on Nice to see you Dan. So the latest die back into your. biography, just a little bit. What was it about back in the seventies about meditation? No. What was it about your life that the practice of meditation and the? Teachings of the Buddha, such a big deal for you that you actually. You. Had Gone to a fancy college if I recall rice in Houston and you've worked in Silicon Valley and you were teaching at a alternative school in Palo. Alto. You basically put all that to the side and became, as you said, a Dermot Bum. Why? Well, it was two things I'd had a long standing interest in Buddhism. Really from my college days, it just spoke to me philosophically in a way that no other system ever had. There was a depth of precision and accuracy the really resonated with me, and the second thing was I was not very happy in my life at that time, I came out of the sixties and my life was really unsettled and I I did a little too much of all the things that people did too much of the sixties. Victor. and. So I was still trying to put my life back together and I never felt invested in the worldly things that I was engaged in. So this Dharma practice came along and I remember sitting on my first retreat. And I reached into a level of stillness of mind that I had never felt before. and. I think what struck me at that time? Was the basic. You could call it in this. You could call it space that meditation. In my mind I felt anything is possible in this place. So looking back now on that experience, what I tapped into was the basic emptiness or you know more congenial word is openness. Of Our mind, our basic situation I saw anything was possible. And I. I must admit I was really drawn by the concept of enlightenment. But there could be transformative moments of insight that would change your life forever you know in a positive way. said two things in there. I WANNA follow up on. We say anything is possible. Do you mean you could play for the NBA? You could learn how to fly. What do you mean when you say I, don't suspect you do to what do you mean exactly when you say anything is possible in that space by meant that the mind could be. Shaped or formed in any direction one wanted I just saw this vast potential of the space in the mind that was revealed through that stillness. And I knew that any degree of suffering that had come into my life didn't need to be there.