Listen: Jason Tatum, Kyrie Irving And Boston Celtics discussed on SB Nation Radio
"I'm like, I'm like Magic Johnson. Your your first guest is way off. Yeah. And then the second one is a lot closer to being. I would have thought it would be like eight or nine we saw the importance of Kyrie Irving to the Boston Celtics obviously in their game this weekend against the clippers. When they were outscored what was it seventy seven to forty four whatever it was without Kyrie Irving as other going to be no, Kyrie Irving tonight as he is dealing with an injury and L is a report coming out that I just I don't even know what to make of this. Okay. Because reporting and rumors I find it difficult in the NBA sometimes to really determine what I care about and determine what is actually true. And what is not true? Because there's a lot that said, right? It's said Anthony Davis made this list, and we don't end that Boston Celtics are not on this list. It was said last year that Paul George wanted to be with the Los Angeles Lakers. And then Paul George signed an extension with the Oklahoma City thunder and things obviously change. I understand that. I don't understand. I just what happens in the NBA. I I believe it when I see it. Okay. So there is a report that came out today. The Jason Tatum would not mind being the face of the New Orleans pelicans. And this was a first reported by believe it was the athletic. It was Sam amick who reported this of the ethnic and he wrote a column about Anthony Davis. And he basically the point was Jason Tatum has definitely been discussed when it comes to the pelicans. And the Celtics actually here's what it is. So Bryant win horse of ESPN was kind of asked to comment on the story that there might be a deal between the pelicans and the Celtics coming up this off season and Brian winters VSBN, obviously is very connected guy. And so this is what he had to say regarding. How Tatum feels about possible trade rumors, and I was going to quote, Brian Windhorst here. Okay. I was talking about the Celtics the other day, and they said the worst thing that happened to the Celtics was their success last season. Because now you've got Tatum. Jalen brown. Terry rozier. These young guys are thinking dude, we went to game seven of the east finals without you Kyrie without you Hayward were this level of player this summer. They could be gone. They might end up in New Orleans for Anthony Davis. It's gossip, but the gossip is Jason Tatum. That's why I said this isn't a report this rumor this is Brian win hearts talking. It's gossip, but the gossip is Jason Tatum would not mind if he's chipped in Orleans and has a chance to be the face of the franchise somewhere because he's not going to get that opportunity in Boston at least not in the immediate future. And this kind of got me thinking here Jakup, look, can you blame these Boston Celtics these younger Boston Celtics, Jason Tatum. Jalen brown. I don't like when these kind of stories come out that. Oh, and it's not a story again. It's just a gossip as Brian winters said. But I don't like when this kind of stuff comes out. And I understand why it comes out people talk the circles inside the NBA. They're tight, but stuff leaks out. Okay. Jason Tatum would've mind if he's shipped to New Orleans. It does make sense though. Right. If Anthony Davis is going to be traded, and you were stopped talking specifically about Tatum. Jalen Brown and Terry Rozier, okay? Obviously, everybody has egos the NBA full of egos, any entertainment business full of egos. What's amazing to me about the Golden State Warriors? And we've talked to Golden State Warriors reporters about this. And this is what is especially amazing to me. The fact that they Kevin Durant came in. And it was kind of seamless they made it work. Like, these guys are obviously the Golden State Warriors are on another level when it comes to talent. But, you know, Steph curry Klay Thompson, Draymond green. Kevin Durant was like a perfect fit. And they all just kind of understanding warriors guys have come on and told us, they're good friends. They're close debt, and they kind of understand that the cause is greater than the individual. And they all have had success. All those guys Durant hasn't won a title yet. But those guys the warriors they've had success before without Durant. So I don't know I feel that they're more mature their older players. But that was one of the more impressive things to me about the warriors. The fact that they could put egos aside and say, art Durant. You come in. To the mix. And if I'm Steph curry, I'm going to give up a shot. I wanna get a I'm gonna give up five shots, and I'm gonna give it to Kevin Durant. And if I'm Klay Thompson, I know I'm a great shooter. But over the course of my career, I have consistently given up shots to Steph curry, though, I know, I'm on this level. I feel like that we kind of took that for granted about the Golden State Warriors that it's not easy in in basketball, or any, you know, entertainment industry football. We see it all the time in football Dez Bryant, Terrell Owens. Those guys are known to be big ego guys because they wanted the football, and we all kind of said, wow, that's selfish that selfish that selfish Dez Bryant. Wow. What a terrible locker room guy. But isn't that the norm? Like, isn't that how athletes usually are? They want the ball. If you're if you know, you're good you want the ball you want shots. So I look at this Boston Celtics situation. And I say, well, look what happened with Kyrie. I'll just read this quote, again, these guys are thinking we went to game seven of the east finals. Without you without you Hayward. We're this level of a player this summer. They could be gone. They might end up in New Orleans. It's gossip at the gossip is Jason Tatum wouldn't mind if he was shipped to New Orleans. We also had earlier this year Cairo calling out the younger players. And you know, we've heard from Boston people to that. They took the right way. Right. They took it the right way. They had a nice conversation and look kyri. It starts from the top. It doesn't start with us. The young guys the problems that are going on in Boston. It starts at the top. We're all kind of in this together. I'm not really buying and I'm on the outside looking in. But I'm not really buying that these younger players were totally one hundred and ten percent, okay. With what Kyrie said at the beginning of the year. And the reason I say that is because one they have egos, they're younger than Steph curry, Draymond green. Kevin Durant, and they have the right to have egos because they did make it far in the playoff. Last year without Kyrie Irving and without Gordon Hayward. These are young guys who did achieve something in the let's not forget, and let's not play it down here with the Celtics achieved last year with these younger players. That's that's pretty amazing. It doesn't happen often where a basketball team or a football team loses. What is arguably there's no question not arguably we were we thought that the Gordon Hayward a career with a top two players for the Celtics last year. They were careering we're seeing the impact without Kyrie Irving. But that is a tremendous achievement. So I hear this gossip gossip gossip, but Jason Tatum on the ship them when Orleans isn't that a natural instinct to have didn't kyri Irving have that thought in his head when he was playing with LeBron James, I can do it by myself. I can be the player I can be the guy. I don't need you guys. Is Kyrie Irving did this to to get to Boston? So look, I get this. I it's a rumor report, it's a story whatever it's gossip. That's what Bryant went on set. But I don't look down at Jason Tatum. I don't like when stuff like this gets leaked out. But I don't I get where Jason Tatum is coming from. I get why Jaylen Brown with thick that. I get why Terry Rozier would say oh you want Anthony Davis. You wanna try this? We made it to the Eastern Conference finals. Let's start. Let's do it ourselves. By the way, we could do it ourselves. They're talking about training the three of us. I would have a sense of pride. If I was Jason Tatum. Jaylen Brown and Terry Rozier because that was an accomplishment to make it to the Eastern Conference finals last year when we come back. I want to get into this Kareem hunt story keep locked here. It's over the night.."