Listen: President Barack Obama, Superior Court And Bassin discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Something that's being investigated right now by the southern district of New York, and I've been asked by them not to discuss not to talk about these issues to help understand the implications of all this part talk. I'm joined by Caroline, former US attorney for the southern district, California and former Superior Court Judge in San Diego in bassin. Former associate White House counsel President Barack Obama and executive director of the nonprofit protect democracy, Carol this seems to be sort of consensus. I think even among the maximalists that despite whatever article two powers apart, and you can't exchange them for favors as part of a conspiracy to cover up a crime. Right. I mean that that were agreed on pretty much. I think we're all agreed on that Chris the problem is we're in completely uncharted waters. Right. I mean, you know, the pardon authority has typically been used after somebody has been convicted of a crime. When all the facts are known, and here, we have the opposite. We have we have the pardon discussion getting mixed in two investigative work going on while hints are being thrown around about on the one side, people dangling, the the possibly of pardon and on the other side people angling for the for the possibility of a pardon. And that's just that's just unprecedented because there's only one person in the United States who holds the partner thirty. And that is the president. I keep coming back into this code idea. Right. I mean, there's"