An deep dive into Trump’s 2020 State of the Union speech

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I'm Audie Cornish in Washington earlier we heard from president Donald Trump and we just heard the voice of Michigan governor Gretchen Wimmer who presented the democratic response to president trump stated the union speech we have several folks here tonight to do some analysis about all that we heard we're gonna start within the within eighteen L. Shammi who was the chief of staff to speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi and Brendan Buck who was a spokesman for the former house speaker Paul Ryan bring you guys both in for your expertise how what we heard tonight now if you're on Twitter there were a lot of conservatives you you're you're using a lot of exclamation points and saying this is the best thing that they've ever heard Democrats not saying the same I want to start with you Brendan what did you make of the president's focus tonight how we deliver that yeah and this is certainly a confident president in a way that you know you might expect a president who's at his all time high in in the latest Gallup poll who is just really defeated impeachment and have the Democrats sort of in disarray he started off with all of those economic status just making the case that things are going well in this country talk about how we're we're not gonna turn back and really was just riding high right some of his quotes it insane three years of my administration three and a half million working age people of join the work force in leaning really hard into that at the top in it and it was a lot of job well done on my part and very little agenda going forward I counted this is not an official count but I counted only ten things in which he is calling on Congress to do anything in a lot of those were relatively small ball usually a president comes in with a big agenda here's all the things I want to do and you really have to dig in there to find them some of it is funding neo natal research funding a child tax credit sanctuary cities sending Americans to Mars things like that that don't really come together in a real way but another take way as as sue was talking about from the room if I've seen a lot of state of the union this was as divided and cold as I've ever seen you could almost hear brewing from some of the Democrats and that is just really stark and the Nancy Pelosi interactions yeah she she tried to shake his hand and he did do it she actually tore up his speech at the end that that's remarkable I've never seen anything like that the team let's have you jump in on your former boss there people were watching her and her behavior very closely but first your reaction to some of the things you heard tonight shoring it was a fascinating speech the king can I give you a look into president trump's mine and that we were hoping that he would meet the commander in chief test but then said that I believe he produced a speech that was made for TV made for TV moments and Brandon is exactly right some of the big issues bi partisan issues that he could work with Democrats on infrastructure he had two lines and infrastructure of prescription drugs he really did not go into specifics as to get me a bell and I will sign it these are opportunities lost a lucky get a showing at age she has to do is to tell Democrats thank you for working with me on U. 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A. and he didn't right you mentioned that it was signed by it was that yeah and and I and also in terms of I've I've seen many states to the union I've been there and I think this is stands up to when president Obama was to during the ACA negotiations and trying to get the bill passed it was it was that same feeling that you had in those to complete the process I want to take a moment now to fact check some of what we heard both the president's speech in the democratic response NPR's Scott Horsley is here to help us do that welcome Scott they do with it this speech was kind of the theme of it was the great American come back the president spent considerable time talking about the economy both his and the prior administration's but here's a sample of that in just three short years we have shattered the mentality of American decline and we have rejected the downsizing of Americans destiny we have totally rejected the downsizing we're moving forward at a pace that was unimaginable just a short time ago and we are never ever going back Scott who was Anderson economy were looking at the one the president's describing characteristically here Donald Trump exaggerates how strong the economy is now and how weak it was when he came into office the fact is the economy was pretty good in twenty seventeen and it's still pretty good now the economy last year grew two point three percent that is exactly the average for the last decade the U. S. added six point seven million jobs in the first thirty five months after trump took office pretty impressive but not unprecedented in the previous thirty five months the U. S. added nearly eight million jobs so really less of a comeback than a more less straight line continuation a lot of people also measure the economy by the size of their own paychecks right in this president described this as a blue collar boom after decades of flat and falling incomes wages are rising fast and wonderfully they are rising fastest for low income workers who have seen a sixteen percent pay increase since my election Scott Horsley is our chief economics correspondent and of course was a long time White House correspondents so to help us understand how he's trying to frame these specific numbers wage wages have been rising faster than inflation that's good for workers there read real purchasing power's been going up but wage gains of actually moderated in recent months in the twelve months ending in December average wages rose just two point nine percent compared to three point four percent earlier in the year and that deceleration in pay hikes is a little surprising given the very low unemployment rate we have now is encouraging as the president says that wages for people at the bottom of the income ladder have been rising faster than those the top that's partly because a lot of states have raised their minimum wages the present also talked about the very large stock market gains that we've seen since the election of twenty sixteen it is way up not seventy percent as he said but the Dow's up fifty seven percent stock ownership are is heavily concentrated among the rich eighty four percent of those gains have gone to just the top ten percent of earners and forty five percent of Americans don't own any stock at all I want to pause for a second and go to Ron Elving because when you think about the last impeach president he was giving a seat at the union is also the person we attribute this it's the economy stupid kind of sloganeering and so is this something that the president should lean hard into especially given what his democratic rivals are talking about why would he not why would he not take credit for where the car a condom use today presidents have suffered when the economy was poor even if it wasn't their fault and even when it wasn't really that bad and even when it was recovering I'm thinking here by George HW bush in nineteen ninety two very short very shallow recession and yet he was pummeled with it and that has happened in other occasions and we've also seen presidents come and office riding on a long recovery such as the one from say about two thousand nine two thousand ten forward into two thousand seventeen and tack on a few more years with policies and there's no question that this president has cut regulations and cut taxes what particularly for a corporations and to some to be wealthy individuals which has juice the economy if you're further but he did come in riding on a long recovery which may be slowing down a little bit now but he basically takes credit for all of it and says that when he came into office it was a situation of American carnage I want to come back to Scott Horsley here because another issue one of factcheck health care promises the president spoke about also Michigan governor Gretchen Widmer who delivered the democratic response here's an example of something the president spoke about one hundred and thirty two lawmakers in this room have endorsed legislation to impose a socialist takeover of our healthcare system wiping out the private health insurance plans of one hundred and eighty million very happy Americans to those watching at home tonight I want you to know we will never let socialism destroy American health care members we talk about the language is using their this is obviously divisive issue even within the Democratic Party some of the presidential candidates on the democratic side Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren have favored a single payer plan that would eliminate private insurance in warrants case over a period of time other Democrats though want to preserve a role for private insurance for those people who want it we should also point out the president did make what he called an iron clad pledged to protect patients with pre existing condition did he explain how we do that he he did not in this this is surely the biggest Whopper in tonight's speech the president knows a protection for patients with pre existing conditions as popular so he pays lip service to it but if anything his administration has has whittled away at those protections and of course they're they're fighting to overturn the affordable Care Act which is where those protections come from I want to talk about another big issue border security the president talked about this one even before he you know what it was the nominee and hit that thing again tonight my administration has undertaken an unprecedented effort to secure the southern border of the United States this statement seems vague but it's got I believe you've kind of dug into it what do you know the administration has made a series of sweeping changes to limit access to asylum seekers at the border I'd sent tens of thousands of migrants back to Mexico to wait for their day in immigration courts and administration credits those policies for a very sharp drop in the number of migrants who are being taken into custody the border in a last may we saw that number peek at a recent high about a hundred forty thousand last month the number was down to around twenty nine thousand so a drop of about eighty percent our allies in this gets at some of what we would call kind of red meat or culture were issues that we heard the president talking about he said he was calling upon members of Congress to pass legislation banning late term abortion of babies he talked about the idea of a sanctuary cities and kind of going after sanctuary states how did he balance this part of the speech with what we heard about the economy well I think those are the two parts of the president's campaign message one is to say you're better off now than you were four years ago the economy is great he said it's greater than ever before in American history but also the president is at heart a culture warrior and he believes that cultural issues are more powerful than economic ones and there is some evidence that might suggest he's right for instance the parts of the country that are reaping the most benefits from the trump economy are the ones where his approval ratings are the worst and the parts of the country that are not reaping the benefits that are doing badly record farm bankruptcy is a manufacturing recession those are the parts of the country where his numbers are the highest why I think because of the cultural issues he's pretty face the voters in those places think he's protecting them against criminal immigrants he talked about those he highlighted once again this is a staple for him a family whose family member has been killed by an undocumented immigrant so these are the two parts of his message one is you never had it so good and the other is you know the Democrats want to ruin your your way of life and that's the message to the public we want to talk about what it was like inside the capitol congressional correspondent kills the smell is there tonight moments ago she spoke with the second highest ranking Republican representative in the house that Steve Scalise we did see a pretty tepid response from Democrats on most things including things other were bye bye things that should have been bipartisan that always have been bipartisan it almost is is like they have this personal hatred against the president and they're letting it see through where they're opposing good policies and you should always put your personal differences on the

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