Navy JAG turned Author with David Grogan

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I! became. The. Executive Assistant for the commander of US naval forces. Central Central Command in in in a nef sent in Bahrain and I was the executive assistant, and it's very unusual for a Jag to become a an executive assistant for a line officer. There was a significant learning curve but I got to I got to travel with them everywhere all the way through. All of the Middle East. We've essentially visited every country except for Iran up for obvious reasons and I also didn't make it into Afghanistan, but made it everywhere else, so that was just a great tour on both of those tours and I need to go back and correct something. It was nineteen ninety-six that I was on the Enterprise Battlegroup, not two thousand and six. Point. This is what happens when you get old So. Those two tours I really felt like I. helped contribute to the Navy's effort because I was out with the line. Officers Providing Advice that help them. Accomplish the mission and. Then I went on ahead. Some Pentagon tour's. And I finished up my career with the officer. The Judge Advocate General Abbas Executive Assistant to the Judge Advocate General for the last eighteen months, working in the Pentagon and spent the bulk of that time I'd say probably at least forty percent of my time there working sexual assault in the military issues dealing with policy and preparing my boss to testify on the hill and those types of things. So just had a thoroughly enjoyable career, but in. Two thousand fourteen. It was time to hang it up and hit ended the civilian sector. So you're very accomplished author, you've written several books. You have series of books. What what point in your career did you start? Get Interested in writing in Windy Jesse Release Your first book. So I at about the ten year point in the navy they send you. The navy. Send you back to get as Jag to get a masters degree in some. Specialty! So, my specialty was either was international law, so I, attended the George Washington University Law School in Washington DC and got a LFM in international law and there I had, I had this professor who taught human rights. His name was Thomas Bergenthal and he was. He's one of the most foremost the foremost authorities on human rights in the world. He served on International Court of Justice. and he's also an Auschwitz survivor, and in that class. It gave me the idea that I could put together a book that maybe would have a little bit of a human rights. seem to it, but do it in a kind of a thriller Genre that so that it might attract to to read it and maybe get a little bit of a picture on on international human rights, so I started that that book. In nineteen ninety eight or nine, hundred ninety nine using that classes kind of the impetus for it and I i. wrote you when you write, you need to write about something that you know about so. I picked the the main character as being a navy a retired Navy lawyer. Now this was a a ten year point in my career, so I still had about seventeen years to go, and and what I did is I I didn't write about me. I wrote about the lower I wanted to be when I retired, so that was the main characters name. Was Steve Well and I put him in Williamsburg Virginia. And he opens up a small town law practice in Williamsburg, and that's kind of that was kind of the driver, and then I made every single mistake. You could make a new author I start, you know essentially started book you know. When in stormy evening Y- you know with all the cliches in it, and I I would send it out to family, and they would read it, and they would say oh. This is wonderful because they wouldn't tell me the truth. Because I was their family number and and then I'd send it off. Off To agents and I started off with all the high powered agents in new. York, and of course it gets rejected each time because it's it's not ready to go so over the course of the next probably ten years I refined the book and kept sending it off to agents and getting rejected until finally I was when I was working in Guantanamo Bay. I was on a tribunal in Guantanamo Bay and one of the guys on the Tribuna with me. His mom worked for the New York Times and he said. She'll edit the first twenty five pages if you send them to her and she'll tell you what you're doing wrong. And that's what she did, so she looked at the I twenty five pages. She showed me what I was doing. Wrong I went through and kind of made those types of edits all the way through the book, and in two thousand twelve I said. I'm going to try one more shot at getting an agent and I sent it out. And, I landed in Agent in two thousand twelve, so that process took about fourteen years and I went through about seventy agents to get to that point well, the agent got it, and and he sent it out in it in a year later in two thousand, thirteen, a small publisher by the name of Camel Press, purchase the book They asked me if I'd be willing to do a series and I said of course and The book came the book that I book. The Siegel dispositions came out in two thousand fourteen. That's

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