Listen: Donald Trump, Chancellor Merckel Merckel And President discussed on MSNBC Morning Joe
"Because when you look at what president. Donald Trump did just two hours before that meeting. He was lobbying shows that Emmanuel macron said that it was insulting. He can't say that into Willie's point. The president tends to be more aggressive more challenging before the meeting or after the meeting in the actual meeting. There's less confrontation. That's that's why I'll be so interesting to see how he handles. Uncle Merckel and by contrast merckel handles him and just about ninety minutes we have sort of the dovish donald trump or we have this assorted twitter tirade. Donald Trump in that meeting. Because there's not a lot of personal chemistry between the President and the chancellor guys they've been very frosty in these one on one moment in the past and we'll see another one coming up here very shortly. Hans Nichols in front of Parliament Hans. Thanks so much. It was interesting Jonathan to watch that exchange between macaroni and trump. Because his hands sounds points out of short time before that when the president was sitting with the end Stoltenberg he went on and on about mccrone being very very insulting to NATO he was effectively defending NATO which is an ironic acquisition for the president to be in but he has to from moment to moment from exchange to exchange he has to take these new positions and today. We'll see him sitting next. Chancellor Merckel Merckel. There's not a lot of love loss between those two now certainly among the European leaders. He's probably the least chemistry with. They've certainly had issues in the past. It was so fascinating to watch to some full yesterday. And I've been to the NATO meetings the last two years. I've been in the room when he's had these meetings macron for Wallace. Remember for time. That was a bromance. The handshake take the firm hint shakes the backslapping. The body language the warmth that all of course evaporated yesterday amid real tension about Isis about trade and other issues the president talking. Yeah about Iran and saying that briefly saying the. US did not support the protesters. They're having to walk that back. Clean up that comment. He said later he thought that meant material support for the protesters I he says the. US does stand with them in their beliefs But we have seen this time and time again As Hans Seddon is as you said. The president doesn't like the face to face confrontation reminded of the GEE seven a year ago which was in Canada and he had an exchange with Trudeau and then pleasant enough in person on the flight out on Air Force One ripped into them. And I think we might soon again today. Perhaps with the sitting alongside Chancellor Merckel the president has a news conference today and schedule later today in a few hours. He did take two hours of questions yesterday. Or perhaps it we'll come on Air Force One on his back to the states later on but joe when you pull back and you look at these dynamics playing out and you see the full video if you WanNa go on twitter you can see it of all all these world leaders making fun of trump behind his back. It's now a competition here to one up him on the public space. It's not it's not like we. We need America. We need to show strength and a connection. There is something else going on and you can even see it in the town with sitting next to macron something that you would talk about is he would always urge people to look at the self interest of other countries the self interest most of the politicians. Nothing wrong with that. Our politicians look after their self interest. And look after the self interest of this country so David Ignatius certain people of France and have seen Donald trump pushing around NATO leaders for years. macron's having some polling problems there a I'm sure whether you're talking about though in Canada. Or whether you're talking about the mccrone and in France or Merckel and Germany Germany. They want their leader standing up Somebody WHO's extraordinarily unpopular in Europe and across the world The American President Hussein as a bully Joe I think that's that's the heart of the matter. Everywhere trump goes whether it's to NATO Summit in Europe travels in Asia. He seems to overturn the Apple Cart. He seems to overturn established policies. He shakes shakes up alliances. He he somehow believes that's good statesmanship and what I've seen. The last year is foreign governments beginning to hedge against the uncertainty that kind of erotic swinging phenomenon that is that is that is Donald Trump. So so how are the hedging The United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia and the Gulf for beginning to think about their own security policies are getting much closer to China much closer to Russia the even beginning to find ways to talk directly to Iran in NATO Francis Sang Factory. When when my call says NATO is is brain dead? He means we can't really rely on America the way we used to that the brain at the center of our alliance. We just don't don't trust. Don't have confidence in."