Direct Connections - Chuck & Matt McMurray

Talking Mopars


All right introducing my guests for the first edition of direct connections. Chuck mcmurray and his son. Matthew mcmurray guys. Are you doing good good and happy Easter by the way Yeah Happy Easter? Do you guys to before we get into your current mo par endeavors. Let's rewind time a little bit and chocolate start with you. What got you into Mope ours. So it's an interesting thing. There was a A nineteen eighty eight hot rod magazine. Maybe it was car craft and they had the the top ten fastest cars of all time and they were measuring the cars in various road courses in quarter miles and things like that and so you know at the age of thirteen. I was really into like Lamborghini. Coon Tauch Ferraris did not the cars and car that owned the quarter mile for that particular top. Ten that they did was a sixty two Max Wedge Dart Right which is the opposite looking of a Lamborghini coon touch and I was just completely floored that something that was that ugly could be that fast and so that kind of caught my eye and from then on I just started picking up reading magazines and kind of following the Mo par story and of course once you get into the four twenty six Hemi content and you realize how many engines they own in straight line racing. They've been pretty much the dominant force when it comes to top fuel and those types of engines and things and so I stuck with it then Got Into my own cars. When I was fourteen. My Dad let me by a seventy four valiant with three hundred bucks out of a walgreens parking lot in Chicago knew nothing about it. You know toward the slant six out and and learned the hard way and After that got into a sixty six cornet and from then on it was it became pretty natural to me to be able to fix stuff was always kind of good with my hands and just fell in love with the brand which was weird because in the early nineties you know. Mo- par didn't have nearly what they have today. Or what the late sixties so sure it was definitely a hard time to be the underdogs so to speak. Definitely Matthew. What about you? Obviously your dad had to have some sort of influence on you and your love of no go ahead. Go ahead and tell your side of the story. Yes so I mean I've actually got two different peaks Because I'm interested in both old offers annual And the the new generation are and actually both have to drexel cars that he's bought so that goes twelve years old. My Dad Decides to tell me. Hey we're going up to Wisconsin and we're GONNA TALK HUNDRED DOLLAR. Nineteen Sixty six dodge. Coronet THE ROAD. Kill the road kill influence. We actually did have a pretty big influence. And I can't leave that part out because I started watching roadkill with him and that definitely sparked the interest in him to want to go and fight in this car. So it's kind of whole cycle on. We started with them. And so when up to Wisconsin? We bought this car and drove at six hours home and it was incredible. That was we almost did. Maybe almost didn't make it. We ended up. You ended up getting home all right and we spent six months with that car before we decided to try it out for our newest nineteen seventy-three Dodge coronet which we still have today. But then so that's my interest in Olmo parts. That's how it all started and now since day. I'm actually driving a nineteen seventy seven plymouth. Which we bought on Saint Patrick's Day this year green current Saint Patrick's Day in and right around the same time my dad decides to get a two thousand ten dodge challenger Archie. And I'll be honest at first I was not kind of it. I was Kinda weird new car. He's always had cars around and then we decided to take it out to route. Sixty six raceway out here. Julia took it down the track. And I for some reason to seeing the car out on the track comparing its other cars. My Dad was out there I was like this is so awesome just the track experience everything about it and pretty much that moment on just seeing the cargo down the track during during a testing tune into it was awesome. Was that your first time at the drag strip. No I've been since I was like three dragged him out every summer and spring we would go down there and go to the MCA events and took him to the Shows when he was so young. The only thing you wanted to do is by matchbox cars and free ice cream. I think the influence of seeing enough of it you know. He started to kind of pick up the hobby and took to it. Pretty naturally right on right on well now that we have a little bit of your background. Let let me ask you a couple of questions. We get into your businesses journey. What do you guys think about? The current mopey marketplace as far as where pricing is for not only project mopeds that are classics but also fully restored Mo- parse. How do you feel about that? You know it's interesting Because you know we've done worked for retailers in the automotive market we've kind of followed where the investment Moped level cars have gone since you know after the economy crashed in two thousand nine and it really got inflated right. It was almost frightening to think that if you wanted to go out and get a four forty four a barrel automatic body that you're GONNA be spending at least forty thousand dollars for something so that was crazy but I am happy that the market is recognized that these cars important enough to put the money into them and take care of them because so many of them just got left out in the weeds and crushed and everything else. So it's been interesting to see kind of how that's continued to change over time but what? I found what I found really interesting where you know. The price of the aftermarket is gone. It's actually a lot cheaper now than it was so many years ago to be able to build engines and get parts. There's you know we went to. Sima last Fall and you know you go to the Diamond Piston booth. And there's four different piston types just for the four hundred in a low deck engines. There was stuff we dreamt of twenty five years ago so I think that's great and the new stuff has certainly respond generation in the market You know it's challenging that hell cats. Are you know to get into one now? If you're going to get into a used one you're probably looking at forty forty five thousand but the demons you know. They're still at that inflated price is you know even with all the incentives you're still looking at a seventy thousand dollars. Eighty thousand carbajal are also buying a ten second. Turnkey Quebec killer so I guess that does make sense. But it's it's really exciting time and I think It has never been good to be a mope or guys it is at least in the last couple of years and my personal. I definitely agree. What about you matthew? What do you think about? These prices are the crazy. Or what for me definitely barely for anything that any of these cars I see him? I'll go on facebook marketplace a lot. Just dream you know. Look at Ebadi's I'll look at peabody charters and stuff and I'm just thinking to myself like if it weren't for the fact that he was into the stuff I would just continue to dream and but I think that it's words at is pretty good because if you look at the comparison of other domestic vehicles New prices used prices. They're they're pretty expensive and I mean it's when you're in the restoration market alone. You're looking at expensive prices anyways. When you're going to get into a project you know you're GONNA be spending money but I would definitely say that. For where things are you know. Where the economy is. I think that the prices are very reasonable and and for some cars for some. I feel like you know the demon. The inflation should go down. I'm hoping it goes down as I just I mean. It's an incredible carbon. I just one hundred and thirty nine hundred now. Let me ask you both this. Do you think that 'cause I I've been seeing almost a divide between modern moped enthusiasts and the the old school guys for lack of a better term. Do you think it takes a little bit of fun out of the equation when you go out him by say a demon or even a hell cat or a hell cat red eye because they're already fast out of the box so like you know you dump will say fifty thousand or a hundred thousand plus on a car you know unless your pockets are really deep. I mean how much modification are you really going to do? How much fun are you really going to have aside from just turning the key in going? Do you think that those cars take the fun out of it you know? It's it's a twenty to say that because we've we've really Invested in in both old and new and having a two thousand fourteen thirty eight that ran he got an eleven ninety. Three out of it with soft tires out of the box mods and It was neat. Because you know out of the box you can go that fast but at the same time. There really wasn't a lot that you could touch easily. If you'RE GONNA make one modification you need at least a tune and with a tune in a few modifications if you put the Karni Eleven's then you need to start trason Dr Line making improvements and so it's really never just a bolt on. It's a few thousand bucks so you know I'd say that it's reinvigorated the market but I would agree that there seems to be kind of a divide between the folks that did restoration and were part of this for thirty or forty years and what the new market has done but in some ways it has kind of taken the fun out of. I think you know when when you can get in a red eye in run ten teens or high nines to do that in a body would require a lot more. Yeah so it makes it easier if you are not mechanically inclined and you don't have tools but at the same time it has reset the bar for. What is a fast car? So it's a it's interesting right but they're also forty six hundred pounds. So you know the safety equipment. My concern with a lot of those cars. What happens if you do have something happen at the end? I mean forty six hundred pound car versus twenty. Eight hundred pound. Cars is a lot more inertia

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