Due Process Institute's Jason Pye and Doug Discuss the First Step Act

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Everybody, it's Doug Collins glad to have you back on the dog Collins podcast. You got a great friend coming back in today to be on the podcast Jason parr, due process institute. I've known him for many, many, many years that we go back from Georgia politics to D.C. politics everywhere in between. But I wanted to bring Jason back in to like a lot going on in the D.C. front and it's not just in legislation, but it's also in its election cycle. You probably will realize that watch list of this podcast Washington podcast went on. Election cycles tend to make politicians do sort of different things. And it's a lot of pressure going on. And I'm not criticizing that. I've been a part of and a lot of part of it. You have to sort of find what works is a guy who's worked with my campaigns consulted for me forever. Chip Lake says, he says elections can be about everything you want them to be. But at the end of the day, the voters have a say in what actually goes on. And that's true. But one of the areas that is so important that I wanted to bring Jason back in because I do a lot of work off podcast with this issue and that's criminal justice and criminal justice reform and Jason has been at the heart of that for a while. I work with the folks at justice action network. You've got a lot of groups out there that do this kind of work. But we're seeing some progress we're seeing some steps back and then what I want to talk to Jason about today is this idea that I saw a Republicans moving forward in what should be a really conservative issue combined with and they seem to be taking some steps back. So Jason Powell, welcome back to the dot com. Thanks for having me. It's good to see you as always. And that's a good time. I was going to say everything you're talking about in terms of criminal justice there are things that Republicans should be running on should be proudly proclaiming and your work on the first step act in Congress. You should wear as a badge of honor. And unfortunately, Republicans are going towards this tough on crime rhetoric that was so prevalent in the 1980s and 1990s. It's frustrating. Well, it is. And I think that's the part now. I wrote an op-ed a couple of weeks ago. We put it out and it was really hitting at that, you know, the whole idea

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