Listen: Managing Editor, Trump White House And Trump discussed on All In with Chris Hayes
"Just that all the no collusion talk from the Trump White House obscures effect, the way they acted vis-a-vis the Russian interference was completely morally ethically. Indefensible, they outright encourage a four and a half to help them, publicly and privately. They sought actively illicit means of. Help through back channels, and that foreign adversary understood them and went ahead and help them. That's not right. And it's not okay. And all of that information is in the publicly available motor report. The president of the United States has very clearly violated office. The question is, what do you do with those facts? Now as a public service. Joining me now to people with deep knowledge of the actual report, MARCY Wheeler, independent journalists writing about national security, and civil liberties and Quinta Jurassic. She's a managing editor of law fair. She published this chart of Trump's possible destruction. That was then used by Senate Democrats when they question attorney general Bill bar up quitting. Let me start with you, because you were sort of tweeting and writing about this yesterday, about have some sort of the microcosm of this moment in which this new information comes to light that had already been the report. And when everyone's attention is focused on think themselves. Well that doesn't look good. Yeah, exactly. I think it really drove home. Exactly how difficult it is to really communicate the contents of. The report, it's stuffed chock full of information, just like that Flynn voicemail. When the report appeared all four hundred fifty pages of it, I think it was really difficult for people to process in part because the president and his allies were spinning it. But"