Listen: Danielle Musk, Danielle Hernandez And Wall Street Journal discussed on WSJ Tech News Briefing
"Elon Musk in as neural inc startup have unveiled what they bill as a significant again advance in their development of brain computer interface neuro link has been developing the technology for two years and says the device would connect human brains and machines with more precision than other available devices. The goal is to use the platform to treat neurological logical conditions such as movement disorders spinal cord injury and Blindness Danielle Hernandez wrote the story for the Wall Street Journal joins us now Danielle Musk and neuro link held an event earlier this week they didn't actually unveil a device but described what this interface would be in. It's a robot that looks like sewing machine. If I'm not mistaken so that's one of the components the sewing machine like <hes> robot and what it does is that it inserts these tiny threads <hes> or electrodes into the brains of of rats <hes> they say that they've also tested the device in monkeys but they didn't show any data on that <hes> and yeah so that's one component of the technology that they're building that sewing machine and the computers would analyze the neuron activity ready right so there are these you can think of them as tiny wires go into the brain and they collect the activity of neurons brain cells in the brain as they fire and shuttle information to and from and that information. Even gets a uploaded or or sent to a chip that then analyzes that information and it's in that analysis that all the richness of the brain activity can be decoded for translating that into motion or speech or other things that might help patients who have neurological conditions and mosque of course the C._E._O.. Of Tesla the electric vehicle maker he said that in an experiment a monkey was able to control a computer with its brain that is all that was said <hes> it came as a surprise to the people who are there to the scientists. I don't think that they were expecting him to say that. But that's all the details we have at this point. I it's must being musk. I asked for more details and they said no comment comment. Neural link is putting together a submission to the food and Drug Administration to start testing the device on humans. I assume they have a ways to go before that happens. They say they want to have their first human implant it sometime early next year. There's always days roadblocks to getting these kinds of technologies into into humans. I think people are going to be careful to say the least <hes> so we know it remains to be seen. We'll see what happens the best way to do this type of activities through you know some sort of invasive procedure procedure. I'm sure their concerns about that well. The technology is invasive so there's two kinds there several kinds but there's two main camps of neural interfaces. One is something that goes into the brain or an invasive device and then there's something else that's called noninvasive noninvasive that goes on top of the brain or on your hands something that records activity from above the skin and the regulatory pathway for that to go to market is much simpler if you are actually penetrating the scan you've your penetrating the skull people are GonNa look more more carefully thought for sure and that's what musk wants to build talk about the safety concerns of essentially inserting something like this into the brain well the brain even though we think of it is really stable actually moves a lot in your skull and so just think about like tiny needles being in their moving in jostling it can create a lot of damage so scientists at <hes> neuro link and other companies and labs are thinking very carefully about how to maintain these electrodes in the brain in a way that safe over a long. Period of time if you're going to insert something like this device into a patient sprain you WanNa make sure that it's there"