Listen: Bannon delivers damaging testimony in trial of longtime Trump adviser Stone
"Then candidate Donald Trump loved that wiki leaks as he called it released emails stolen by Russian government hackers that were damaging to Hillary Clinton and what Donald Trump was repeatedly praising wikileaks. Steve Bannon was working for him as his his campaign. Chief Executive and Roger Stone was trump's informal advisor today. Steve Bannon testified under oath that Donald Trump's two thousand in sixteen campaign considered trump's longtime confidant roger stone as the quote access point and quote to wikileaks Bannon delivered delivered that explosive testimony in the ongoing trial of Roger Stone on charges. That stone lied to Congress while it was investigating Russia's attack on our election bannon told the jury quote the campaign had no official access to wikileaks or to Julian assange but Roger would be considered if we needed an access point because he had implied or told me he had a relationship with wikileaks and Julian assange. It was something I think. He would frequently mention or talk about. That goes to one of the most crucial unanswered questions about then candidate. Donald Trump did he rely on Roger Stone his longest serving get visor to get dirt on Hillary Clinton joining us now mother Jones reporter Dan Friedman who was inside the courthouse today back with Natasha Bertrand National Security correspondent four politico and an MSNBC contributor. Dan I just want to quote from your own a reporting here. You wrote an article in which you say. tump trump trump's campaign pain apparently thought it was colluding with wikileaks. Steve Bannon says trump team saw roger. Stone has access point to assange. The trump campaign apparently thought it it was colluding with wikileaks in Bannon's cross examination today stones defense attorney asked him you and the trump campaign didn't view Steve Stone Tone at the access point to wikileaks and Bannon. Says I think we did yes. That's remarkable. Yeah that's pretty striking and Bannon didn't only say that the trump campaign was receiving what he thought was inside information on wikileaks from Roger Stone. He also suggested did that. They believed that the that stone was sort of orchestrating. The release of this stolen democratic emails Bannon said that when when wikileaks released the emails the emails from Clinton campaign chairman. John Podesta in on October Seventh Twenty Sixteen Sixteen. He said he heard that stone had been involved in making that happen. And then Bannon's assistant on the same day sent stone an email that said well done just two words so they kind of thought that stone was actually helping them actively which is quite striking. What's the implication of that Dash? Oh what what is the implication of them thinking. They were working through stone with wikileaks and extensively with the Russians who had done the hacking that wikileaks wikileaks. With the the information that wikileaks had. What's the implication of that on those who believe that there was some kind of coordination between the trump campaign the Russians or the trump campaign and Julian assange? Well the implication I think would be that they tried to cheat right. One of the biggest questions is whether the when after the access. Hollywood tape dropped about twenty minutes later. wikileaks started releasing the emails from John. Podesta's Inbox and the biggest question has always been and did someone. Coordinate that close to the campaign or on the campaign directly coordinate with wikileaks and I think it was just touched upon a bit that that Bannon a and did testify to the fact that they believed that Roger Stone had this power and an access and he also said that he really felt like at the moment when they needed wikileaks most when they felt like they needed more emails to come out that were damaging to the Democrats and Hillary Clinton they felt like they could rely on on stone as that access point so I think that obviously raises a whole bunch of questions about whether they were waiting for a pivotal moment in the campaign when trump was literally at his lowest point Republicans and allies abandoned him left and right after the access. Hollywood tape came out when they actually went to stone and said Hey. Please help us out and do this because the the timing of that release after the access. Hollywood tape was extremely to put a generously coincidental. So then is there anything in that trial in which we are establishing whether weather. Someone did coordinate. That because as the TASHA said observers of this at the pre K. concurrently while it was happening or in hindsight can conclude that it was either coincidental or lucky organized and yet people who say the guy is a big talker. He wanted everybody to think he was title. Julian assange and wikileaks. But that he. The evidence isn't clear that he was"