Listen: Does Plant Based Keto Diets Work?

"For anyone listening the whole idea about adding fat to your plant based i it seems very foreign i mean here's the thing i've been doing this for a number years instead of hosting it out there so that people can see what i do for it to be an option in it's amazing how much push back i get from both the plant as community and the low carb community and it's for different reasons but it's fine i have enough friends in my life that i don't i don't need anymore but your furniture thanks but so you know people think that you can't do it so the low carb people think that you you can't get enough eighteen if you're eating a plant based low carb diet and honestly there are a lot of options and we can talk about those in a second for that from the fats the in point i mean for me it was a matter of there's three macronutrients fat protein and sugar and carbohydrates and if your limiting one of those injuries one or the other and for me i found through experimentation what my optimal amount of protein per day is if i'm going to maintain gene you know i work really hard long hours and i also run a lot like i found what amount of protein i need to sort of maintain my composition and then the fat the things that i added in from a fat standpoint are avocados nuts and seeds i do use some olive oil l. olives cheese flax seeds things like those which for the most part our whole real foods so you know what my they may look like what a meal for may look like is there these beans called lucchini beans that are have zero net carbs they have a ton of fiber or yeah i can use blacks way beans or tofu or hamper some other things like that i also so i can't use the things that have written in them because i wanted genetic lottery that way so i'll have those is my primary protein source and then i'll have a bunch of leafy green vegetables i'll have salad with some olive oil on it i'll put some nuts and seeds on it i eat a ton of broccoli and asparagus and cauliflower and you know put guacamole on everything and hot sauce because everything is better with hot sauce and nutritional he's you know so my diet's it's pretty simple it's pretty straightforward it's mostly wholefood i mean some people argue whether olive oil is a whole fruit or not but we're not going to today i mean olive oil battle far too many times right and at the end of the day every single one of my modifiable markers improved to the optimal range so you know for me and for many of my patients this is way that sustainable and you know i have no objective reason to think that there are downsides in my ANC which is a measure of my control varies between you know four point seven and five point three which is almost unheard of the goal for type one diabetic is six point five five to seven i mean that's amazing i totally agree with you when i when i went into my vegan pita experiment i'll be fully honest full disclosure i was very anti i heat oh diet on forever very anti i like you and i like eat them but it was very much like very not i was hoping he was going to be l. two weeks i was like this is gonna blow up my LDL and then over that span of time in july i was like wait a second to actually read the data read about polyunsaturated fatty acids read about actually talk to different lipid allergists and everyone's like you're limited profile probably won't change at all and didn't if anything even mildly grooved with zero it just felt significance but there was some tiny in prevention so i think that year idea that it can be helpful is actually very clear to me now i know i know tation in ascribe for my each and i think it's i think it's very interesting you know way to eat and have the benefits of the first things i want to start out with you guys a. b. six you guys can go into how do you go into joe says and how you mateen thing he does is just kind of like the basics going into kito animal martha before we do that danielle can i say that i wanna i wanna thank you for doing what you did because it was pretty brave and unusual i think we're all aware this ridiculous diet or detention more thing that happens out there that's frankly just annoying as hell and it was great to see you try this and admit that you went into it with a not such an open mind and then admit that you really had a better experience than you thought you were the product of that has been tremendous i mean first of all it's brought the three of us together in a way that none of us expected it's been fun and we'll talk about all that later but it was really awesome that you did another carries like wait i've been talking about this for five years old sudden danielle opens her mouth and like the whole vegan kita i thank you i think it's for me at like i think that i've just been i tell you over the past two years i've realized how complex obesity isn't free conceicao kind of explain understand how key johnson precipitate but for anyone listening it works i mean maybe doesn't work for everyone in mountain state that everything everyone but for me like i had really great and i think that it's something that once you experience it you can't unknow it it's really interesting experience it works for people that want to try it so yes most people have been asking these kind of the basics you could just kind of describe how do you go into toes says on the whole you know there's like a lot of myths about you can't have any carbs where i kind of to sell zavos society to is it is significant when you're in ketosis that you know i used to think you had to be a special kind of stupid to miss a meal because all i could think of that was wanting to eat all the time and when i'm in ketosis which is now most of the time i have to remind myself to eat like i'll operate all day and then not eat until you get home from like this i have actually not looked into this there's something about the key johnson actually suppress like what is the what is the actual mechanism of up yeah need maybe ethan you can talk more about this there's different theories on it i don't know that anybody fully understands how it impacts the different hunger hormones i think there's sort of a theory behind ended at you know if food was in scarcity and we were hungry all the time we would not work communal species than we would not get along very well if we got you know we're perpetually angry until we found food but i i don't think anybody fully understands the mechanisms how it impacts the hunger hormones specifically but those questions are being asked yeah there have been so star if you start at the beginning there are definitely there've been randomized controlled trials to look at appetite and society and every other measure of hunger her absence of hunger and i think there's no doubt that on a proper peter jennings diet that hunger is reduced versus other diets i think people believe that i don't think we understand the anisim and i think as carrie alluded there are lots of studies looking at potentially the role of grellet or other hormones that affect appetite might personal favourite theories it has something to do with insulin but i'm sure that's not all of it and to be just circle back to your question before about whether or not it's key tones itself or its carbohydrate restriction or something else we don't know it could be any of that MR all of them it's interesting i notice a definite difference i think up to save nutrition show individualized but i do think about on some level is because i think there's some people who can eat and i normally do i normally might like regular diets like gazillion grab carbohydrates damn fine but i am kind of always hungry i've never experienced the feeling of being like not hungry at all until it was just it's like i've never felt like shocking i think that's the most common thing that i hear from people who started for the first time is that there is i feel like they're never hungry and you know some people think it's just you're eating all this fat and fat has various at satiated and again there are like one hundred fifty theories and it needs to be worked out why but i think it's pretty clear that the the flip difference i mean i don't think it's the fact that you're eating because like i said i can have my last meal at six o'clock at night and i can go until six o'clock the next night in have operated the whole day it's not like drinking butter for breakfast and that's the reason why i'm not"

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Does Plant Based Keto Diets Work?

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