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Hello Hello Welcome. That's quite funny that you picked that lineup by the funnies because it was I said it in barons in Glasgow when we were recording a live album on the tour and finally is a very endearing to call someone in Glasgow. If you're being an idiot appeared fanny and it just came out. It was unplanned. It's on my live album so yeah I think is gonNA glass that one great. Hashtag stike five eight member to write the word five. So you've been based out in La for some time now and that's obviously a very different culture. Has that impacted on your song race in Seoul what you say. Yeah I think location is always GONNA be important ingredient in what material you come up with and I'd actually go night to La to sort of start again. Because I'd been through some really difficult stuff here in the UK a dotted past divorce. Everything owned just really needed a fresh start. I wanted some sunshine and I wanted to be somewhere just in this of replenishing environment. London's quite overwhelming very fast place city. Oh it was found it quite difficult to relax in London and I gone to Venice. Beach was onto an. I'd been going to La for a long time tour but it was the first time few years ago I went to Venice beach and it was the first place. I'd been where everyone is just bombing around every day of the week. You don't have to wait for the weekend and that's actually really helpful for what we did. Because we don't have weekends in London if I had a Wednesday off. Everyone's just giving me evil looks because I've got time off whereas there it's just a very laid back quite an alternative culture in that part of La and La's basically like twitter. It just totally depends who you follow. You can have an extremely different experience living in different parts of La knowing different people. It's very separate all these areas so you can. You can really have a completely opposed experience of living there from someone else and so I chose Venice and I was going to take a break. I felt very stagnated. It just felt like I was caught in an eddy of finding the mixer. He's mixing everybody's staff of being in competition with you know inevitably any other female musicians that anyone could think of. And I just wasn't very inspired to make a record so I've actually gone out to L. A. Really to study film composition which I did but it was really just listening to west coast rock sixties and seventies row. Tom Petty fleetwood. Mac Neil Young Joni that got me writing some real kind of Air Punch big choruses again and the world had sort of become darker at that stage that was like two thousand fifteen things were on the turn and so if I was writing similar stuff folk inspired stuff like I did on invisible empire crescent me my fourth record. I probably would have to shelve it and waited but I was writing these really. Big Pop. Choruses about overcoming difficulty so it felt like quite helpful thing to put out into the world. I was excited to do it. Yeah we're always fascinated by right zoo. Kinda take a break from when we spoke to front healy. He said it's Kinda like select the field life. Follow for Awhile and I think that's really important. I think that's why I mean. Some people can smoke fags burgers every day until they're one hundred and five and they're fine. Everyone's different but it certainly works for me to not be constantly trying to keep up a level of output people often ask about writer's block and I actually watched them a star is born. The other day was it as far as born. No it was the wife. It was that foam the wife. Brilliant Glenn Close Foam. And there's a line in it where they're at this really pretentious party. No it wasn't even the wife. Can you ever forgive me? It was one of the Oscar nominated movies when Melissa. Mccarthy goes to this book party. And someone's asking this really pretentious right or do you ever get writer's block and he goes well. I don't subscribe to writer's block I was like. Oh my God. I say that it sound so pretentious but I actually don't. I just think it's quite arrogant to expect your creative mind to just do what you tell it to do. I don't understand really where the gift of some rain comes from. And so if people ask me that question I'm like look how many books how many films how many plays how many museums of you said that you want to go and see Redo Watch ingest and you've done use that time. Fill yourself with some stuff. Get some input or sit and do nothing in your Pyjamas. Also very useful. I find but you shall time for creativity. Oh that sounds like a bit of a paradox book. Do you put a new. Yes so it's a great excuse to go on. Adventures. I love right now albums. I love albums that one piece of vinyl because I think that four or five minute cut off point is actually a really good of point for how much music you can ingest at one time. The same for podcasts. Yeah good to know. I'll keep my answers slightly shorter but yeah I think albums are a really extraordinary form of making music. Even if you're not I mean I'm in the middle of the matic are making three albums together in a trilogy at the moment. But even if you're not doing that there's a there's a familial kind of hermetically sealed world within which that record is made and so many people will come up to me and say that their favorite track is an album track. And IT WASN'T I. It would have been the single at first but Israeli side that we're kind of moving. I'm not a lot of people I know are not but in general. There is a move away from albums. And I think that that's a shame because it kind of is taking away that deep dive on a snapshot of an artist's life at that time so tell us about that idea that you've been chewing Kim and walks. Did you have a unifying concept of the trilogy before you even started? Nope that was the thing that was really funny trilogy. You would think that you would decide upon that before you started. And I didn't and I wrote can and it was so very healing experience. In that record it was coming with kind of really Fu blast Mojo but really feeling like it was the beginning of the second half of my life so I came to. Kim is quite a different person than I had been up until that point and in many ways the fourth record invisible empire crescent meeting. I kind of see funeral music. It's cold these titles because my dad died right in the middle of those sessions and it was. He wasn't very well but it wasn't expected. And then I kind of had this wake up where I just went on Gordon with the wrong person. I'm sort of in the wrong life. And so yeah. And this is when procurement was this kind of funeral march to that happening and so then became this real phoenix from the ashes. It was this real beginning of something completely new for me and you know it's very easy to take a show. L. A. N. It's completely deserved. It's total bullshit van. You know people go. Oh my God. You're amazing you've got to do the movie. Oh they never called me ever again but there is also this amazing element to la where it's really is the vanguard of a low of new thoughts from health to filmmaking to the arts. You don't get laughed at for trying weird stuff. And there's a brilliant Frank Lloyd Wright Amion love he's an intrinsic part of La's architecture and kind of culture and but he says if you turn America on its site everything falls in California and so you just get a low of Weirdos and a low of them eccentric people and the thing I particularly like about L. A. Is Wild in many ways but actually like literally you can drive twenty minutes and be at the top of a mountain and be killed by a lion and that's the truth and there's Koyo Cheese and eagles and it really is untamed and it's also completely untamed in Mississippi as well because there's not as with guns in their cars so it's just a really extreme place so meditation had been a big part an always wanted to get into yoga just healing myself and getting really healthy and it's very easy to do there and I did and I really enjoyed it. Meditation became quite an important part of my daily life. And very good doing this job to just actually learn to control your brain because a lot of the time the monkey brain is just jotting chatting biscuit to shut up for fifteen minutes Varvara Day but it was during a meditation session on the tour for Qin's Akin was all finished and I am. I just had a really really strong vision. That can was the first part of a trilogy. It was all about the soul owned by the spirit and I knew I wanted to make a real rock and roll record next and I knew I wanted to explore electric guitar because I hadn't really delved into that. It always been acoustic and that to me is the most visceral most physical Instrument Electric Guitar.