Listen: Ukraine opens probe of possible surveillance of ambassador
"All of this information coming out about possible surveillance and alleged possible threats of a US ambassador to Ukraine. Where Eric is the secretary of State who was supposed to protect those ambassadors? Mike Pompeo as a member of congress was outraged endlessly about what happened to our ambassador Benghazi but he has nothing to say nothing to say in these last twenty four hours. Do you believe that part of the motivation to get rid of Ambassador to get her out of post was because She was in the way of this effort to get the government of Ukraine to announce investigations have Joe Biden. Those only motivation that was the only other. Donald Trump told the president of Ukraine in the phone. Call that got the president of the United States. Impeached that the American ambassador to Ukraine Marie amount of rich who donald trump had just removed was quote was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine. Were bad news so I just WanNa let you know. Oh that she's going to go through some things to donald trump on under surveillance through Guiliani and his associates including love partners. The evidence left handed over to the house. Intelligence Committee includes texts from trump contributor Robert. Hi to left harness. Yes that indicated Mr Hyde. How the ambassador under Surveillance Rachel? I love about that repeatedly. It appears to be giving you very specific information about the ambassadors movements about her location about her security situation calls the B word it over and over again. It's very hostile to her and seems to be monitoring her whereabouts. What why did those exchanges happen? What was he trying to tell you? I don't believe I think he was either drunk or he's was trying to make himself bigger than it was so I didn't take it seriously and I was trying to see. I didn't even respond to most of the time if I did it was like something. Lowell or okay or great or something like that just to because I wouldn't respond for a long time and then I didn't want him to get rowdy if I saw him next time and say well. Why didn't you type those texts? Were taken very seriously last night when they released last night by the diplomatic corps the United States all over the world. Dennis Schell Smith is a former career foreign service officer who served as ambassador to Qatar. In the Obama administration she held several positions in the State Department tours of duty posts around the world. She speaks Arabic Chinese Spanish and Hebrew and she knows the kinds of risks are ambassadors face including threats that she herself faced when serving as ambassador after the news broke last last night of the threatening language used in these newly revealed tax about embassador Ivanovich. Donna Shell Smith tweeted. Many ambassadors are used used to hearing about threats and various malign actors surveilling us. It's the fact that it was Americans plotting associates of the president put. That takes this just beyond January discussion. Now is former ambassador. Dennis Schell SMA. Thank you very much for joining US tonight. And I WANNA to get your reaction to the new evidence entering into this picture tonight of love partners saying oh no worry about it. That was all just a joke. Mr Hyde died is just a drunk and I didn't take him seriously. Mr Hyde himself appeared on another a network saying yeah I was drunk all joke. What is your reaction to that? It was is all a joke defense. Well thanks for having me Lawrence. I mean my reaction is that it needs to be investigated. I hope it was just a joke. I hope for that landscaper in Connecticut. who was drunk just happened to be texting about an ambassador in Ukraine and with very specific things like what her electronic devices were doing and the layout of the embassy buildings so yeah? I hope that was a joke but it really just does need to be investigated if we take it and think of it in a different context maybe from regions where I've served if you knew a group wanted you out of the way and then you saw that sort of text exchange change. I don't think anybody would be very relaxed about it. Can you imagine a in any previous administration a secretary of state being absolutely silent after the revelation of evidence like this Lawrence. I joined the Foreign Service when I was twenty one years old. I worked for eight secretaries of state. Five presidents I've seen leadership this is. It's unbelievable I know. I cannot imagine any secretary Terry. Having been absent every hour. That Secretary Peyot is silent or tweeting about other things is just. It's more unconscionable unsuitable and just a complete abdication of his leadership role or let's take a look at Rachel going at this issue again as I said she questioned about this repeatedly Let's listen to more of your questions about this questions about this. But the texts where he was supposedly reporting on the whereabouts of the ambassador went went on for a week. I mean it wasn't like one drunk night correspondent for seven days couldn't have been drunk the whole time of year old. He wakes up and is drunk he starts at six. I mean I've never seen him not drunk so you thought that this was him making it up. You didn't believe he actually had the ambassador under Alan. Absolutely so the defenses. It was a joke. He was drunk. But what you're calling for is an investigation. And I. I know if you were still an ambassador inservice. You couldn't be with us now. Having this conversation and calling for this investigation I have a sense that you are. We're speaking for ambassadors United States ambassadors around the world. Tonight they haven't asked me to. I may have the sense that I'm speaking for some of them as well. But I'm I'm here with my own opinion but I don't know how anybody could listen to that interview and not walk away and say there needs to be an investigation of the threat and of all of these surrounding issues You had an earlier guest talking about our foreign policy being hijacked by this group of people with no official role in no oversight. There's a whole host of issues that need to be investigated and I think anyone who cares about our national security feels that way and such an investigation would be under the jurisdiction of the Attorney General of the United States in the last hour in that interview. We just heard live police. Say The attorney. General William Bar is on the team. He was part of this entire endeavor of trying to influence Ukraine. How does that make you feel about the possibilities of investigation? Well I can't speculate on what might actually happen in an investigation. And I'm really grateful that Chairman Angle and the House Foreign Affairs Committee is is calling for an investigation as well and I believe planning to conduct one. But I will say having spent you know two and a half decades explaining blaming American institutions to foreign publics and talking about our justice system as the finest in the world and our system of checks and balances. It's heartbreaking heartbreaking actually to even contemplate that our system might not work and. I'm not talking about what the outcome is. I'm talking about an investigation and let the investigation happen and see where it leads. You investor Dan Shell Smith. Thank you for your service representing this country country around the world and thank you for joining us tonight really appreciate it thank"