of the, you know, into Iowa us and into Yosemite. You know, these are the points where it would be very easy for Apple to just kinda foundered in and just kinda you know Santa's not way answer cheeks into into a new release. Make the last thing You know made the new thing. Look exactly like the last thing because eight allow we we can make enough of the last thing. So why would we diverged from that? You know, which is the first year Um. The You didn't know abs coming in the keynote. I imagine lease a weight you've been out of Apple what two years now? Live Earth Apple in early two thousand twelve So this is mice third W W WDC not as an apple employees. Okay. I imagine the first one you pretty much. Yeah. New Duong's come in the second one, maybe a little bit suicide, slicked it like a brand new thinks here. Yeah, There were There was a lot more than was brand new, You know this year and. And you know it's it's funny because I'm I'm still friendly with with Sony people who are now working on these new efforts And, and you know what I don't ever want to put him in a position where they feel like, uh, you know, they have to say, I can't tell you. I know they can a Right. And they're doing Dan. I got a lot of fanfare and. I'm basically just ask like, Oh, you happy and they say yes or no. And as pretty much it naked, You can't get into anything. But. Right. Yeah. And I am I going to be happy to see the thing that you're working on. You know? Yeah, you try to talk in vague terms. Sure. Right. So yet every year that's gone by, It's been a little bit more. You know, I'm I'm a little bit more detached from, you know, from what's coming in and two to everyone's credit who, you know who is still at Apple there. They're not telling me which is they're doing the right job that they're doing their jobs. Uh, which is great. Yeah. So four hours in where two-thirds of the way through with didn't deny truck, Please join us next time. As we finish off with the iPhone to the ipad and what comes next.