Listen: President, US And Amir Putin discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"The praise the declarations of love, in fact, for Kim Jong UN the weirdness with lot. Amir putin. What would your posture be towards those types of of world leaders that this president has embraced? Would you meet with people like that? Would you not meet with people like that? There are certain conditions where maybe you would meet with them. But I actually think the the emergence or the reinforcement of figures like that or an example of why it's so important to have America be credibly defending our values and right now, we're not credibly doing anything in the international scene. Look, I still believe strongly in American values and anytime. We as a country have tried to do something that we thought was in our interests. But when against our values sooner or later at caught up to us, so I think the core of American foreign policy in the future as the next president is trying to reestablish US credibility and do things like make clear what the standards will be for the commitment of US troops in unilateral military action in the future, which by the way, I hope is a much higher bar going forward. But any of that is being resolved at has to begin with the idea that American interests and American values are inseparable. And so when we were encountering these often competitors or adversaries, we got to recognize that look the American model is not quite as not viewed as convincing as it used to be now because of the instability here at home, and because of the embarrassments coming out of the White House. There are a lot of people around the world who might say, you know, the Chinese model isn't looking so bad right now, you got the Russian model throwing its weight around the Saudi model is you mentioned. I think it's precisely because they're throwing their weight around that we need American values out there. But it has. To be credible. And that means you have to have a US leader who's willing to draw lines who's willing to hold leaders accountable when they do murderous things. And who is extremely selective with when you use the prestige and power the presidency either through a meeting or through a favourable comment to elevator lift up, a leader of any other country, the relationship between this president and Vladimir Putin in particular, obviously has its own dynamics the redacted version of Robert Muller's report is going to be released to the public on Thursday. According to the Justice department, do you have expectations about what's going to be in it or how we should react? I have expectations that our expectations will be frustrated just because of the reductions in because you know, so often were I think we still have this instinct is Democrats horrified by the abuses and the failures in the character of this presidency that there will be some kind of piece of evidence out there that demonstrates conclusively to everybody that he's not a good guy. And what I hope we can remember is that there are a lot of people certainly in the industrial. West where I live who already know that he's not a good guy. They didn't vote for him. Because they think he's a good guy. They voted for him for a whole different set of reasons, and this isn't going to change that. So I think we need to separate the importance of the mullahs report for our country, and for clarifying what happened to the extent that it will. And we just don't know yet with what we think or wish it would do politically at the end of the day on the political side the only pathway to getting to be a better country is to very decisively defeat Trump and Trump is at the ballot box and ask for the report that's for congress in the American people to figure out once we've gotten a look at it in terms of what's going to happen over the course of your campaign for president what's going to happen between now and twenty twenty one of the ways that Democrats are gonna make national news every day between now and the twenty twenty election is by pursuing various investigations of this president, including a whole bunch of subpoenas that just went out to join Bank a fight right now for whether the president should be handing over his his tax returns."