Listen: Trump, President And George H W Bush discussed on The Beat with Ari Melber
"About the last Justice department under bar, he was attorney general under George H W Bush and the president issued six parts in the Iran contra case when on Christmas Eve. Mr Bush granted a Christmas Eve pardon to former defense chief casper, Weinberger and five other Reagan administration officials Bush called it an act of healing the Iran contra prosecutor called it the completion of cover up. But as the New York Times reported at the time, it was accused as a cover up in the president was consulting on those very Christmas Eve pardons with the Torney general Bill bog I want to bring in former US solicitor, general and MSNBC analysts Neil Cacho. Thanks for joining me. Tonight nail. Thank you wanna get to several things. But starting with this big news your view of both the announcement of Thursday as time to get the redacted report where that raises any questions, and how you view that more broadly with Mr. Vars approached us far. Yeah. I mean color me skeptical. I think that there's reasons to doubt bars up Ness on this. So it's not just that he wrote a nineteen page memo last summer saying that Trump basically couldn't obstruct Justice on. Really flimsy legal theory. It's not just that he cleared the president of obstruction of Justice in forty eight hours when it took Muller two years, and he didn't make that conclusion and said, it does not exonerate so things like testimony last week where bar said like that there were that there may have been quote unlawful spying going on and this weekend that led the Trump campaigned even do ads around that and saying oh this effectively deep state has engaged in lawful. Spying. There's the perception. And hopefully, not the reality that the president that the attorney general is really Trump's attorney general not the attorney general of the American people. Right. And as you say, it's a matter of looking at that holistically and the testimony he gave we didn't give it even a lot of time on the show because the underlying claims were so weak as to not in themselves be factually newsworthy, although one can decide whether or not criticizing the sort of congressional hearing by tweet storm approach is something worth. Criticizing. And as you say, I think that goes in to the analysis. I also want to ask you about the Trump side defense, which would seem to be aided by Muller not indicting on a conspiracy. And so for your Alice's of fellow former prosecutor like yourself, former DOJ official Renato Mariotti puts it like this. What if Trump truly believed that the investigation was meritless and a waste of government resources. Then as they greet the mole report this week. Could they argue there's the evidence that Trump was aware of fact central to the collusion investigation. Does he had good reason not"