Listen: Fighting Socialism In The United States Today
"To do if you don't know my personal history in enough show. My parents live on the fascism children than under communism as adults. My father was arrested tortured imprisoned by the secret police in Hungary during the Cold War six years later. He escaped from prison during the glorious ten days of freedom freedom of the Hungarian revolution. It's all there in. My books defeating jihad my first book, and then my new book, why we find defeating America's enemies with no policies. So for me as you can understand the question of socialism, isn't a theoretical one. It's something I studied in clause when I did my PHD and political science, it's real it's in my family's blood. It's in the experience of my parents. So how we are talking about it today in America. Is really very disturbing. And I can think of better than the executive director of the victims of communism. The moral foundation Mariane Smith who is with us for the whole hour. Welcome. Thanks. Thanks for having me on full him on Twitter. It's Smith Marilyn M A R N, follow the foundation veto victims of via communism, and that website is victims of communism dot org. I wanna talk so much about your work. The incredible work of the foundation this in mentally impressive. Golly. You have every year to memorialize the more than one hundred million people who died in the name of calm, Marx's ideology. But first let me ask you as as an American living in America. How did we get to the place that we have to have a president an incumbent president actually say to congress during his state of the union America will never be associated country. How did we arrive them Maryanne Smith? Well, I think that millennials my age and younger jen's e we've grown up in a world where there is no Orland wall. There's no iron curtain. We're not really sure that what's happening in China and North Korea Laos, Vietnam, and Cuba is actually communism. That's not certainly not how it's how it's taught how how it's presented. But I think crucially following World War Two. There was no Nuremberg for communist regimes throughout Europe. You mean after the end of the Cold War after the end of the second world SR nine hundred eighty nine right after the collapse of communism in in Europe. There was no Nuremberg way. There was for the Nazis following World War Two. And so there. No moral reckoning. There was no public condemnation of these ideas. So that's first off second. I think that in high schools students are taught is sort of withering critique of American history, the Howards end version of our history. So we're taught that we're actually not that special. We're not that good and other places of probably better. And so they have no appreciation for our way of life. And then they arrive in college, and they're presented a sort of apology of Marxism that these are pretty good ideas. These are better ideas, frankly than free enterprise. Which is selfish and they've never just they've just never been implemented correctly. And so that's how I think you can have an entire generation now embracing socialism, Marxism as a pretty good idea that might just be better than what we have. But the parents of these children. Live through the Cold War. So when they come home from school, and you'll kids saying socialism is cool. How how is that? Not correct reaction that well there should be in there. So I mean, we definitely know that education is failing on this particular issue. One of the most important aspects of education should be to convey lessons learned the hard way by a previous generation, and certainly the Taliban. Ideologies of Nazism and communism, which of course, conspire to start World War Two with the molotovribbentrop packed in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine and then cooperated for a year and a half before Hitler, eventually invaded the Soviet Union. If we haven't learned those lessons that Marxism is the world's deadliest city. You know, we have failed at a core aspect of what education should accomplish. All I can say is that parents have sort of mended the gap in what has failed ride in you'll work. Tell a little tell us a little bit about why the foundation the victims of communism memorial foundation was created and what you'll mission is today. Sure. So we're a five and one c three nonprofit educational human rights organization, but we enjoy a unanimous authorising act of congress from nineteen Ninety-three and the mandate was to educate Americans about the history of communist regimes around the world. And to memorialize the victims the victims are more than one hundred million people killed and some forty communist regimes since the Bolshevik revolution of nineteen seventeen. We have a number of educational programs. We have curriculum resources were middle school and high school teachers, we have a educator seminar in Washington and around the country to enable to give resources and enable teachers to teach this difficult history in the classroom. We have college and university programs. So we'll send this survivor expert on some aspect of communism to the campus. We do that in all fifty states. So we partner with local college groups or study centres or friendly faculty member, and we you know, we run educational sort of public educational initiatives like billboards in Times Square or informational videos online just trying to keep the. An accurate history of the last hundred years before the public mind. Because you know, we do see that the term socialism and communism are being washed, and somehow normalized there an acceptable alternative to talk about in twenty nineteen in the United States and the last minute half. We have left in this segment every year, you do a very large pole. Would you say with our listeners? What millennials said about socialism communism in your last a new poll? Sure, we do this each year for the last three years with yougov. And this last poll released in the fall of last year found that fifty two percent of millennials would prefer to live in either. A socialist were communist country, and that's pretty troubling findings frightened. However, the same poll did find that the majority didn't understand those concepts meant and were unaware of the history. So I don't think that we have a majority of. Ideologically committed Marxist. I do think we have a small element of Ideo ideologically committed Marxist who are taking advantage of vast ignorance about the intellectual and the historical meaning of socialism. I understand the way you've explained it. But let me react. And then we'll come back in the next segment. It doesn't matter because that is starting definition of the usefully you create a permissive environment. If you have hard core ideologues and their minority, but this surrounded by fifty one fifty two percent of generation who thinks socialism is cool than that creates the permissive environment in which they can beat allowed drum to undermine the founding principles of the"