Leif Eriksson, South America, Atlantic Ocean discussed on Skeptiko - Science at the Tipping Point
Thing anymore so in half generation. We've actually made a lot of headway now. people realise. Yeah the north. Were definitely here to me. I always say people. We know for a fact the north of here in the earliest parts of the eleventh century. Leif eriksson all those icelandic sagas nor saad as we know they were here. We know they came down least as far as northern new finland. Now most experts say that lonzo meadow site which is to stop over point. They came down probably as far as mame runs. Look were sure of at least new brunswick. So they're right. The doorstep of new england already to me it would be more surprising over the next five hundred years after the north. Where here that. Nobody came back. That's way more surprising than the idea that people did like to meet five hundred years as great reasons to come over here. Trading mining cop whatever it was economic advantage that lots of all the land the land of of of ah plenty. There's plenty of great reasons for coming over here. And part of the human condition to to seek out new life. A new civilization as star trek says and so again the idea that the atlantic ocean was a barrier during times. and before. that's that's a fiction that the church wanted people to be afraid of falling off the edge of the earth that they crossed the atlantic but that was because they wanted to maintain control they wanted. They didn't want people exploring of being scientific. But most educated people understood that there were the earth was round and there were other lands across the atlantic and this goes back to ancient atlantis and whatever goes way back but again to me the takeaway. The surprising thing would have been if nobody came back between the norse and fourteen ninety two. That's almost five hundred years. That would be surprising to me will will. I think is kind of really interesting where you went there. A couple of ways. Day this one. You're pushing it way back. At least it seems to us. You're pushing way back and we'll dive into that in minute because you're pushing it back to the second century and you're pushing a role but let me just throw a couple of things that i picked up from a another interview that i heard you do because you have a kind of broad knowledge of all this stuff that i want to kind of tap into and that's that we've kind of moved from one kind of wacky paradigm that we shouldn't look before columbus and we've moved off of that and now we moved to the. Oh okay we can look to kind of the medieval period like you're saying and nor did it and you know what we want to stop there when really we have no reason to stop there like you point out the phoenicians who are the people in lebanon right and they were great seafarers and they kinda sailed all around in boats bigger than columbus. You could also point out that the whole easter island thing. I mean that's a harder ocean across and you got all that and then you've got all connections in south america. You also got all this other archaeological evidence in formula club instance it's popped up with you.