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And welcome back to our final segment with Jeff Grupp. His we talk about God faith. Let's go to Wayne in Tacoma, Washington, west of the Rockies. Hey, why? No, go ahead. Good evening, gentlemen. Georgia kill Jeff. I can hear you're on the way to a great person apologised, like raleigh's varieties, you're doing fantastic job tonight. And I thank you for that presentation that you're giving. I know your earlier alluded to the world's problems. And why is the world the way it is fallen in full? And we have to look at what the bible says, of course, clearly states that from the garden of Eden on me are in a fallen world and the gang and principle that world is Satan or Lucifer the light giver. And I hear all these people talk about looking at the light and seeing the light and seeing light. So I'm a little leery about myself. That's what I mean. But I just wanted to, again, say you're doing fantastic presentation of God's word. And we gotta look. You know, history tells us that the, the Agassi's in the Pharisees, you know what did Jesus say to them? He said, you are vipers in, and snakes and other things he call them, and those are the religious leaders of the day of the day, and, you know, basically, all religions of the world are the same. It's all do's and don'ts. Do my goods outweigh my bad. That's basically, what all religions say. And this is where Christianity differentiates from religions Christianity is not a religion, it's a relationship with God through his son. Jesus christ. Through faith by grace through Christ alone. Jeffrey. God bless you. Thank you, take your balls. Jeffrey. Yeah. Yeah. Actually. Yeah. I agree that the, the whole point of our lives are to have our eyes fixed on Christ, God all the time, then we have meaning than we have satisfaction than, than we have full this and death. And I think what you're looking at. When you look at the world is the product of people who are not staring. At God, that's what I defined evil as different Senate evil in the book, and I call evil taking is I've got I've got a whole pile of versus I because it says, in the bible, God, creates evil than many places in the Old Testament, they so you got to do something about that. What in the world is that all about? And, and there's an explanation for it, basically, meaning that God sustains the free will consciousness of angels and people in allows and he keeps them in existence while they free. Choose to look away from him. And I call that God's creation of evil which is. Anyway. Interesting issue, let's go to Mira in Los Angeles mirror. Go ahead. Hi. Good evening. Hi. So I just wanted to offer my understanding of. Existences suffering based upon the biblical text. Sure. Says angina says the fruit. Guard said behold, the man is become as one of us to no good and evil. And now let's keep it forth, his hand and take off of the train of life and eat and the forever. So basically, you know. Even God is not perfect if you read the Old Testament like you'll see a huge pensive anger here. Penser even making human beings that, if you look in Jona, Joanna pensive anger to destroy the city, which he said. So when I guess, when we think about suffering, we think Austin about this stuff during the flood, you know. If we think about the story of. How has his comfort, but. Is what is heart while you're right about that, though, that God is presented in the bible as angry in many cases, Jeff, don't you agree? We the attributes of God. You know, new presence in one is wrath, and that has something to do with that, that humans are different than him, and that we have been in in. In other words, we violate the ways of being like God and that's the whole point that we're not worthy of being alive anymore since we're different than God. That's a whole point of, of the cross and so forth, which, but yeah, that's a lot of these things got infinite creator. And a lot of this stuff is just beyond. I just gave a sermon called God is mystery and a lot of ways that's to approach this great sense of unknowing and. Realizing that he's just I mean, in a way that so therefore, we're a mystery also humans are mystery word if. Image. We're infinite, too, but were smaller 0, because you don't can't Torian mathematics is different levels of Infineon. Right about in my book. So it's, it's good to think of God is great something beyond almost like a poem far beyond what we can comprehend. And that's good news. I think because when I then we can be absolutely humble in face of this incredibly yo it's like, you know, this amazing openness, that he represents, Stephen South Dakota. Let's get you hear Stephen. Go ahead. Hey, George taking my call thing. I could talk for hours on God's purpose in my life. I believe that he is it is whatever ultimate being of pure unconditional love, and I have a higher power that use Colin God. He's kept me a wide because I let him into my life. We see the horrific days, we're having today and, and I believe that man is they animal, and this animal has street choice has allowed every twice. Well, I believe that everything purpose, I believe that God doesn't make mistakes. Well. I sober birthday. Been sober forty one years. And I, I learned how to drop my mouth ensure the real me. One of the things that kept me in trouble. Was I was unique? I was apart from everybody else might stories different than yours. And so I say, you know, yeah. In nineteen Ninety-one. It'd be go to state house here, coda Yankee and I worked with south guards helpful I do artists in residence. Three months. Geriatric, mentally ill and the kids and maximum security people. And I learned that I really learned that keep a gift give it away. And say is there's a city that made his brothers his way alone. All the we send them to live come back into our. George very welcome. You know, and this is an emotional thing for a lot of people Jeffrey, isn't it? Yeah. Really? Interesting calls tonight. Yeah. The, the whole thing of relationship with God is absolutely gut wrenching, because it's always interplay between the Missouri lives and know in, in a lot of times, we'll approach got is being invisible. Now, my opinion, the more were fixing our eyes on guide, the more, I live should be sort of this stream of miracles. Now as some people are like, oh, yeah. Right. The no it's really the case. That's, that's my experience in my life. When I'm not distracted by the world. When I don't have my desires takes time certain things, and when I am living sort of state of poverty, and, and nothing matters. But God me and my relationship with Christ. It is my life will flow from meal. I'm getting streams of information. I shouldn't have and miraculously things are happening. Seeing things that I didn't. Near you only think in seeing in the bible, or something then that's really how life is supposed to be. There was supposed to be continually getting implanted by supernatural power from moments moment. There's your life has meaning otherwise, it's meaningless Jeffrey in terms of living and dying. Are you ready to dine? This being I know a lot of people georgia'll say they're not. And it's like yeah. Right. But I'm genuinely looking forward to die. And I said that I was praying with an inmate in the jail the other day. And I was like, say. Not in any rush. Right. I. Well, I want my kids to be taken care of, and my wife to be taken care of. And so there's that issue. But other than that, no, I'm ready to go right now. Are you really? Yeah. Ready mean prepared or you want to I want to I want to die, I prefer to be like Philippians one twenty one for me to live is Christ. Today is games. That's what Paul said, there's many versus throughout the bible death whereas thing because we really believe this really experienced guide you see the world is, is one way, and then what's beyond into the source of the world is absolutely different. And you want that not the world. All right. Once again, tell us where people can get the new book, God faith. Oh, it's on Amazon. If you go to my website, praising love dot net you'll see indications for over there. You can buy directly from my sight as well. You get it a little bit faster. It's, it's not quite out, yet, an Amazon. It will be in a couple of weeks. Can you do you sign them if they get them through your site to if they want a little fully circum makes it worthwhile? Okay. Super Jeff, thanks for being on the program. Really appreciate it. Thank you, and take care. And there's no question. There's something out there. There's a higher power. This isn't a fluke. It's not random. It's not an accident. There's no accident than than I have known people who have been in situations where they have prayed, and whether it was to an angel or to God, or whatever you wanna call it in some remarkable miraculously things have happened. Well, let's our first Sunday and as we always do is a tradition. I always liked the show with something someone emotional, and for people who keep writing me going the name and a group disturbed and the song, of course, based on what Simon and Garfunkel said they like the way this one is done. So listen..