Jim Jim, Elgin, Connie Willis discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory
Show here on coast to coast AM. Hi, everybody, Connie Willis here. We are talking with Jim Penniston of the rental Shaam incident. His latest book coming out here soon is going to be called the rental Shaam enigma. And then the second one is shortly after that, Jim. I gotta ask you if we can go back to that regression. Did you learn things that you had no idea that happened? Was there any type of I gotta ask this was there, did you notice any missing time that was longer than you thought? And did you get was there any type of doctrine that you later found out? Good question. What happened was after I got in from the field from the investigation in CFC. I noticed my mom watches. Forty five minutes off the time of the other regular clocks and. So that has always bothered me. But I'm I'm I I'm going to contributed to the part where I put my hand on the triangular glitch. And maybe that wasn't three seconds. Maybe it wasn't five seconds ten seconds. Maybe that that took forty five. I don't know. Does she find out anything when she regressed you about that? No, not no not from the the recall from the transcript. You know, what I don't know if. No transcripts. It was unmanned the crafts was intelligent control. But. I the reason I'm calling the intelligent control is because when it took off. Why would it make a writer? Right. Right. I mean, those are things that you know, from observations so that, but. And no this. No, I don't think. So. Okay. Okay. Well, what about I mean? You know, you just now said it was unmanned what if they were tiny little itty bitty things. Got throw it out there. Well, i'm. There's definitely no way. It can be piloted by. A human being. I mean, right. Oh. Some big enough unhumorous. That's really interesting about that is because when they had the containment team come out from Langley a couple of days later, they sent a C one thirty out and they. Area and all that kind of stuff, and they did tests and one of the tests that is the ground was frozen because you know, the time of year, and and the impressions were like interesting half down Brown, and they determined that this craft wait some around seven tons so. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. On the on the landing gear that didn't exist, but I can see. Yeah. That was interesting too, by the way. So let's take a phone call here anti on the wild line card. Alabama has a question for you. Jim. Hi, there anti welcome to coast to coast. How are you? Hi anne. Yes. It is. Okay. She is. So nice of you coming on the show. I would like to know about the story of heard about the crowd it flew over it Brando, Sean and sand a light beam or blue thing on a nuclear missile facility and disabled the nuclear missiles has everything to do with this incident, you're talking about no. Well incident was that was it bent waters. Well, no, I I don't know anything about that. It would started interpreted as a bent waters. I know of even you know, from what started Nevelson curl hall told me that that's not the case. Yeah. Thank thank you for that. Call in Alabama. You know, that's the thing with so bitty. There's different documentaries out there. There's different things that you hear. But that was a whole another incident that I remember she's talking about where you were seeing over the missiles, and they were shut off the new nuclear missiles, and they were turned off. Let me tell you about sergeant novels one of the things that he was upset about it. You just told me the last couple of months, he I think it was oh, I can't remember the documentary now is years ago. And. Turn normal something. I can't remember the documentary. And anyway Monroe was really upset because they edit it to make it sound like the beams of light were stripping down in the weapon storage. Yes. I remember that. That. That's that's how it sounded. That's what the phone company wanted. Stike livid over it. He says what I said. No, they cut it out. And they they they put it the way they wanted to the to the public. That's the problem with documentaries, everyone I've done the best part of them. I guarantee you are on the cutting room floor. Yes. Choose to make money. You know? But it you're looking for a one hundred percents truth. You're not gonna find it. And the thing is they don't need to fake it. They don't need to change it. It's already crazy enough. Don't do that. They don't need to do that. It's just drives me crazy because not only do they do, you know, not only do they do it continuously. But they change these people that really do want to learn about it. They get the wrong information just because somebody wants to I don't know make it different than it is in some way where they think it's better. But it's not is not better. It's already incredible. As it is. You know, the the Renison forest incident is not about me. It's not about any other witness out there. What is about it's about the binary code? That's what it's about it. Always. I oh, I didn't know that the beginning. But now we're at a point of our research sat is what it's about. And they discoveries that Gary has done are. Have shown the code within the code and the math don't lie. I mean, we're gonna stand behind one hundred fifty percent. And and and challenge anybody the mantra. These are good. It's good research. What's can you? Tell us the code and the code within the code. Oh, my it's got to do with the some coordination sites. And is how they will show different things around the world. And plus one of the things that does is it concentrates on the Giza pyramids, and it identifies two chambers. They're on the right now unknown, and we do have a team that's actually doing research. That's very bonus speak on it. So were hoping that they get enough provisions from the government of Egypt to do some real thorough research with it. And we're sure that there's gonna be a a major find what's it in in the very near future. Major find what do you think that find might be who knows who knows what? Those those favors. I mean, maybe there, you know, there used to be anything. But we think it's it's commonly into that. So you got any of the remote viewers working on that in the military guys? No, no, no, no, no, no, you up with some of them. Now. Now, these are these are these are these are actually scientists, and they're going they're going to go in and do the real thing. Yeah. These are their professors are on grants for other reasons with the university's excellent. Yeah. And we're looking for a substantial information to come out. So, yeah, we're we're we're quite pleased with ten that's great. Yeah. It's so yeah. This the incidents doubt about me about anybody any person it's about something much bigger. Excellent Patty wildcard line number two out of Seattle. Hey there. Patty, welcome to coast to coast. You have a question for Jim. Sure, do and I wanna give a shout out to you Connie. I hear your very first show. You were so giddy. Got it there that show. Thank you. So happy to hear you on the show. You I told you I was going to try and be a caller. And here, I am so good. Jim Jim saw my red orb UFO video which I'm not a creator or anything. I just tried to get somebody to see an end Jim manage lab, look at it. And it was only one of five cliffs, so I put him up on YouTube. So anybody can look at them if they want to, but yeah, Jim, I followed you for probably I don't know twenty some years, and your story is absolutely fascinating. So I I really wanted to know is and especially since I had this recent sighting ala loan, did you feel just joining a club of those who've experienced a UFO sightings something so out of this world and suddenly feeling apparatus from the whole rest of the. At least who has never seen anything and to them. It's just hearsay. Well, it is life changing. There's no doubt about that. I wonder that forced not believe in such stuff as your foes, and all that kind of thing by left there with a total different viewpoint. Yeah. It's something that I had to live with so far thirty eight years, and it's unique. And I don't try to judge anybody on, you know, their encounters or whatever. I think that's it's a personal thing. Like with Reynolds them. You know, quite honestly, I I don't really care if anybody believes that are not it doesn't bother me because you know, I was on the ground. I was there. I know what happened. So I I don't think I I let the public to bother me like that. You know, the the naysayers or people trying to to bunket, hey, so during a really bad job with the bunker. The is thirty eight years come on. Yeah. Patty. Thank you so much for that question out of Seattle. Nice lady. And boy she's into a two and she did she. She nailed you. She got you. She said she was going to. Yeah. What I've seen those videos sounds like shows. Well, what do you think? I don't know. This is it's downside. It's it's a you AP. I don't know what to say. I bet you see those a lot. Yeah. It's nice to be able to watch a actual video that was taken, you know, in someone's backyard and this first time it's happened. I had happened with a a lady lives in. North west Indiana two she showed me one. I even sent it out to my friends that were JPL works out JPL in California. And also at Lucasfilm's have you ever seen a good? They come back and say, they don't know what it is. So you know, those things there. Yeah. You know of all the reports ninety nine percent are explainable, you know, whether it's right. Aircraft Dr drones or something like that. But dinners at one percents factor and one percents factor is huge. I mean of all the reports a year that's like five thousand. Unknowns. So yeah. Have you have you ever hung out and talked with Travis Walton? You know, Travis and I have talked back and forth, you know, on the internet for twenty years. I guess, you know, whether it's advice, or whatever it is one thing. I'd like to do is probably get with him and just sit down and have a long talk. That would be. I think productive talk. Oh my gosh. I want blue rock talk to the right there with you, man. That would be awesome. I couldn't imagine have have steak dinner little bottle of wine and talk that would be fabulous. There you go down would be fabulous wildcard line. Number three. Charles out of Elgin, Texas, Charles is that right? Is it Elgin elegant elegant taxes? That's how he pronounced it down here. Like, the Elgin marbles over there in Elgin, Illinois, one of those places. Well, welcome to coast. Yep. Yep. I well. I I wanted to act. I wanna ask you and James, Jim. If the if if at any point NATO intelligence had an interest soda and interests, they may have had an interesting night shown it in in the rental some incident. But also, what do you think you think that that any technology that might be discovered day at Giza or somewhere else will be sequestered or do? You think you might be able to get some knowledge of it out to the public. Well, the plan is to go have a full disclosure. Yes. Line as far as naval intelligence, the people that I did not know they were serious during the debriefing aside building and one wasn't are in the other one had a British accent. So as far as naval intelligence. I I can't ask that I had nothing to indicate that. Okay. Yeah. All good, Charles. Thank you. I answered that question. I'm not sure did I answer your question. Was about was about whether or NATO intelligence, the North Atlantic Treaty organization, whether their intelligence people were interested in this NATO. No, no. We kept them in the dark. We treat them like mushrooms. No,.