Orson Oh, Kale, Peter discussed on You Can't Make This Up


But, you know, another story we didn't end up getting into the film. But it's interesting as the polling kale relationship too. So, you know, pulling kale writes this famous barn. Burning piece called raising Cain in the early seventies. Essentially, arguing that Orson did not deserve the Oscar for writing citizen Kane because Herman Mike Witt's. Largely wrote it on his own and basically giving banquets credit for being the artists of the and the French autour son's, yeah. And it's interesting, and I'm actually a big mega. It's fan read books about him. But, you know, her only source was John houseman who at that point hated or sin, and and she never asked Orson for any corroborating or a a any kind of other interview about it. So in the real story behind that is that polling kale's nemesis was Andrew Sarah's the leading American critic who is arguing for this a tour theory, and she said well, the easiest way to get him to take down the biggest a tour star of all time, which is Orson. So there were all the politics happening on the film criticism level. And so when she writes this piece Orson asks Peter to write this full throated defense of him, which he does in Esquire magazine and. For Peter who's one of the hot up and coming film directors in America to take on the top film critic in the country on behalf of his mentor. It is no small ask Anderson's part. And he does it again with Charles Higham. British critic who writes, a critical piece in Peter writes, a very strong attack on high m defending Orson does these things again, and again, so it's odd that Orson would see Peter's character is betraying him. And this is where we get into the kind of psychology of Orson. And in a way, he was writing something to the relationship that he was predicting rather than actually existed because we're some belief that everybody portrays everybody else. I wonder have you seen this shorter film that wells made sometimes it's called portrait of Gina. Sometimes it's called Viva Italia. I have seen. I watched it for the first time recently because I was doing some research about her, and it's all sensibly a movie a short film that he was trying to sell to TV TV pilot as about these these Italian stars, including Gina Lollobrigida, but it's actually kind of his very bitter essay about not being appreciated in his own country. And this is fifty eight I mean, this is a preoccupation of his going wave going way way back and that piece is fascinating. I watched that before we started making this. And it's also fascinating the way it's made its cut in this incredibly fast way in or Sens asking questions, and he's interrupting his subjects while they're answering all the time, and they're up cutting all these things, and it's so I mean, you see the seeds of effort fake, actually in this other piece and fake was the documentary or Samedan in the early seventies. Which was really the film. That's influenced me, the most of organs hands down and a film. That's been a huge influence is a duck. Commentary filmmaker in one that I'm really paint a mosh to with the lemme want him dead. You use some footage from an answer. I mean, I have a thousand questions I could ask you about effort fake. But I mean, I did wanna talk a little bit about the style of your film enemy. We can start by talking about the narrator. Allen Cummings who presents footage from the other side of the wind from a movie Ola, which is a technique that Welles himself does an effort fake. Yes. And Orson oh, often traveled with the movie Ola. I mean, the thing is to have an on camera narrator in this day and age is not cool. Like, nobody does it. But I figured if ever there is an opportunity to do it. It was with this film because Orson loved the narrow to'real voice, and it goes back to his radio days. But if you look at many of his films, he narrates the trailers for his films. He narrates every TV project here we did. He narrates and he made a living largely narrating things. So I think or some loved. The use of narration and not just a voice of God narration, but a narrator whose a character who sometimes unreliable who has personality, and I just thought well..

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