Now going to look at two stories about journalism ethics that have had very different outcomes. One is about someone famous and powerful. CNN's Chris Cuomo reportedly advised his brother, governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, on how to respond to allegations of sexual harassment against him, But CNN said the primetime host will not be punished. The other stories about someone who is not famous or powerful. Emily Wilder, a recent hire The Associated Press, who just graduated university says she was fired for her affiliation in college with pro Palestinian groups after right wing media and politicians unearthed old social media posts. The AP denies her allegations, saying she was fired for violating their social media policies while she was working for them. Though the wire service has not specified which of her posts crossed the line. So who is the media? Really for? That's exactly the question Sarah Jones explores in her essay for New York magazine. She's a writer there and she joins me now. Hello. Hi. Thank you for having me. Let's recap these two stories and and start with Chris Cuomo. What was the reporting on that? What did he do? So. The Washington Post reported that behind the scenes, Chris Cuomo had taken part in certain strategy sessions to advise his brother, the governor of New York and how to deal with recent sexual harassment allegations on reportedly referred to the phrase cancel culture and discussing those allegations behind the scenes at the time. On Emily Wilder. What is her story? Emily Wilder is a recent Stanford University graduate who recently finished a stint at the Arizona Republic and started as a news associate of The Associated Press just a couple weeks ago. While she was in college. Emily was, as you noted, involved in some pro Palestinian causes and once referred to Jewish billionaire Sheldon Adelson as a naked mole rats worth noting, Of course, Emily herself is Jewish. Those social media posts were on Earth by the Stanford College Republicans and sort of spread from the Stanford College Republicans, too, right wing media from there and she was fired this week. And you said Cuomo should be fired. Can you explain to me why It's true that Cuomo is it is a commentator is an opinion journalist. You could even say that what he does maybe straddles online with entertainment. But you know, I'm an opinion journalist myself, and I don't always get everything right. But I do believe that the standards ought to be rigorous as rigorous for opinion journalists as they are for any other sort of journalist. And I think Chris Cuomo just objectively failed to meet those standards. And he was also allowed almost nightly to be on CNN together in the early days of the pandemic with his brother, the governor, and there's also been other reporting that Chris Cuomo seemed to have gotten special medical attention during the pandemic s O. I mean, there are a lot of potentially a lot of lines being crossed there. What do you think? It says more broadly, though, about the way journalism rules. You and don't get enforced. I think it shows us that these rules these definitions of objectivity are often very poorly defined. They very wildly from outlet outlet and there doesn't seem to be a universal standard at all. They also seem to be poorly and forest, the very unevenly enforced as a matter of fact. One could argue, though, that Chris Cuomo is being transparent that he does have an opinion, and it's in favor of his brother, who he's related to We also have to think about corruption is while these standards aren't just in place to protect impartiality, aspire his opinions go. They're meant to make sure that somebody isn't using their platform to enrich or two popular is somebody else. Now you can make the argument, of course that is Governor of the State of New York. Andrew Cuomo's already very powerful, but his appearances on Chris Cuomo, his brother's show really did help make him more of a household name to the nation at large, and that's really good for Andrew Cuomo. I'm not convinced that's good for anybody else. That's journalist Sarah Jones from New York magazine. Thank you very much. Thank you. Biden administration has pledged to pump for billion dollars into Central America to address the root causes that are driving immigrants to the U. S border. But that's a tall order. NPR's John Burnett visited hundreds recently and examined one struggling program that's trying to lower the homicide rate and convince people to stay. The letter and AnAnd is is one of the most violent neighborhoods and one of the most violent countries in.