Listen: Michael Cohen, Manafort And Paul Manafort discussed on MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)
"For a decade as a senior executive at the president's real estate business now heading into today. We had expected that the filing from prosecutors in the Manafort case might be the one that would advance our understanding of the scandal and the status of the investigation. The most would help us understand any further potential prosecutions, for example, more than anything else. We've seen thus far we do. Now have the Manafort filing as promise the special counsel in that filing lays out for the benefit of the judge in the Manafort case what Muller and his team say are the lies of Paul Manafort since he's been supposedly cooperating with prosecutors after he pled guilty and entered into a plea agreement with prosecutors back in September. So we do. You have that filing as expected. It's interesting. It does raise some interesting questions, especially in terms of manafort's contacts with the Trump administration. Well, after the campaign was over well after the time when Manafort was supposedly no longer associated with the president of his administration at all. But prosecutors filed a separate document with the judge in manafort's case today, which we don't get to see an addition to this one that we did get to see Moller's office today filed a sealed document with the judge and that contains all of the information they say that involves ongoing investigations or any uncharged individuals again that bit is filed under seal today, and it may just be that the juiciest stuff is in that sealed. Filing. We won't know until all that stuff in that document somewhere down the line is unsealed. So it's interesting. We were really really add a lot of anticipation in terms of the Manafort filing today all in all though. Honestly, the court filings where we learned the most today, we're was not the filing related to Manafort. It was the stuff related to Michael Cohen. And so I wanna just I want to just go through these. I'm not a lawyer. Statistically, speaking, probably neither are you. But these filings are ridden pretty much in layman's language, I think the written in layman's language enough that we can just go through them here. They came out late tonight. You may not have had a chance to read them yet. And I think we can basically get all almost all the news value out of them. Basically just from the text of these documents. So we're going to go through each of these documents and turn never we're going to bring on some expert advice from lawyers and reporters who have been involved in this the heart of this story and in the jurisdictions in question here. Well, let's start first with that Manafort filing. We'll talk about the questions. It raises them. We're gonna talk about the two filings that we got about Michael Cohen today. The two filings from calling today first one is from the prosecutors in the southern district of New York that one is fascinating today because it reads, basically, like an epic patriotic poem about Michael Cohen's crimes. The federal prosecutors in New Yorker apparently quite upset with Michael Cohen. They basically want the book thrown at him. That's the filing today that SDN y filing that has led to all the headlines you might have seen about how Michael Cohen is now facing potentially substantial prison time. So the there's the Manafort filing the SDN y filing on Michael Cohen. But then there's the second filing on Michael Cohen and for my money. That's the document from which we got the most new information and the most intriguing information. So that's the third document. We're going to talk about tonight, and that's a relatively short document seven page-long filing from Muller's office about Michael Cohen explaining why his co op. Operation has been so valuable to them that document, I think you'll see has the most intriguing stuff in it. It's also the document that probably offers the most bad news for the president for the White House for anybody who may have been involved in anything Russia related during the campaign who also had a link to the Trump organization the president's business the molar filing. And the Coen case tonight is the one I think poses the biggest apparent risks not just for the president. But even potentially for members of his family, who, of course, will working at the Trump organization and also we know dealing with some Russia related matters during the campaign. So that's the basic map of what we've just received tonight from these court filings, and that's the basic map of where we are going.."