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"Today plenty to get to obviously, you know, we're in bowl season for college football bowl seasons. College football playoff season. You know, what one thing real quick? Because you know, it's a ways away from from all that. But I just want to mention maybe I'll get into a little bit more later, but UCF. They've kind of been a joke right in the sense that they gave themselves a championship and people say, oh, they don't play anybody. And now they're they're in a bit of a feud with the SEC because the Commissioner said that they should look inward to address why they didn't make the playoffs because of their schedule in their defense. I mean, it's going to have to be tough to. I'm sure it's tough to schedule non conference opponents considering those teams are already playing tough enough games in their conference. So why would they schedule UCF? I have a question at what point do they get taken seriously? Like, what do they have to do how many consecutive wins that they have to have if they beat LSU after they beat Auburn last year in the bowl if they keep winning at some point don't they get taken seriously? So that's something to consider also. There's a lot of reaction to the the possibility that major league baseball may eliminate the shift. I didn't know people were so passionate about the shift. This crazy people really have a strong opinion on that. I really could've fooled me. I had. I was like oh shift. I didn't know so many people cared about it. So we'll get to that. Also, there's the whole K D N LeBron thing, you know, what what? Kevin Durant said about the environment around LeBron using the term toxic which set off a lot of opinions. Start with the NFL. It is the weekend. It is football season and about a week removed from. Mike mccarthy. Getting fired by the Green Bay Packers. And I know a lot of people thought that was due and very well. Probably was I mean, look you've been there. A long time. I was talking to. Brian Billick this week. And he said the the Bill Walsh, she used to say to him that that no coach should be in a job for more than ten years because just eventually need a change of scenery me. We were talking about Marvin Lewis, and he basically said that he doesn't think that the Bengals could get a better coach, but they could get a different coach which. Theoretically, I guess could help them going forward. But the thing that I take away from Mike McCarthy being fired more than anything else. What other excuses Aaron Rodgers have now, right? At some point that's going to come back on him. And we we've talked about this on this show. I think Aaron Rodgers needs to be removed from any goat conversation. Until further notice. It's just hard to defend what has gone on their this season. And when you're talking about the other guys in NFL history and goats in general Rogers is just not held to that standard. He's just not held to that standard. I mean, Tom Brady is probably the consensus goat in the NFL. He has five Super Bowls. He's been to to others and still. We criticize him and wonder what he would be like or what the patriots would be like if he wasn't there considering he wasn't there before and they still did. Well, that's what happens when you're a goat. You get scrutinized to a crazy level brought up what LeBron that instance. No one's been scrutinized. Like LeBron insane. Every single thing. He does on-court off or whatever. And Rogers just skates. He just skates. It's always somebody else's fault. And you know, you look historically forgetting Brady Peyton Manning's teams had double digit wins thirteen consecutive seasons. The idea of him missing the playoffs was unfathomable. So would you really put Rogers over him much less Brady? And then you know, there's drew Brees who statistically more yards per game. Better. Completion percentage has done it at a higher level for longer. And then there's clearly the the argument, which is that that Rogers is the only reason is team is relevant. But I would counter that argument by saying. The entire Seahawks. Offense has been Russell Wilson for years now being tire panther's offense has been Cam Newton for years now. And you don't see those guys getting the same level of credit that Aaron Rodgers does. You don't. Imagine a scenario where they wouldn't be catching heat if they were over there last eight on the road like Rogers if they were losing to the cardinals. And here's the secret. Aaron Rodgers just hasn't been good this year. I know he's got some nice statistics as far as like touchdown to interception rate. But a lot of what he's doing out. There reminds me of like how manning is doing that. And I'm not saying he's he's manning. But what I mean is if you look at Eli Manning's completion percentage this year, he looked at ally. Manning's touchdown to interception ratio. It's good. But he's gotten killed. Gotten killed. And another thing I've noticed with Rogers aside from a lot of his passes is being inaccurate. He's missing like screen passes. And all that somebody just doesn't take the play that he has. There was one game recently where he had a guy in a slant that would have picked up a first down and instead he decided to run around and and eventually led to an incomplete pass. So. I think a lot of this has on his shoulders as well. You can't just blame Carthy. It's the easy thing to do. Which? Opens up. A big big chapter of of Rogers career coming up when the new coach comes in. Now, maybe he has a late career renaissance Allah, drew Brees. I mean, look we were probably saying stuff about drew Brees a few years ago, and it being the end of the road and look where he's at right now. So that that could certainly happen. But I watch Aaron Rodgers maybe he's injured. I kind of wonder if dude is washed I kind of wonder if he just kind of passes prime on top of everything else. And. He doesn't seem like the easiest guy to get along with or coach at times. You know, seems like the kind of guy that. Believes he knows best which would be fine. If the results were there like I don't care about that. Like, I don't care if he was, you know, Peyton Manning used to change everything at the line of scrimmage. Lebron James calls his own plays on the court. You know when the results are there. You'll never hear me complain about that. Stars can do that. That's fine. But for Rogers the results haven't been there as of late. So all right. If you know bash show me why that's true. Show me why that's true. Which creates a, you know, a fascinating dynamic in the sense that. That coaching job is open and should be very desirable. You even have to pose the question. And and I'm sure the answer to this is most coaches are going to take it most coaches are going to happily take it for the chance to coach Rogers. But it leads to that question of. Is there a possibility a coach wouldn't want that job considering where Rogers is that in his career? And and who he is as a guy. That's a bad guy. But headstrong. And again, maybe not the easiest guy to to mesh with or get along with it Thompson. And then there's another open job. Which is the one in Cleveland. With Baker Mayfield. Who's on the KOMO the Browns they had a little bit of a post. Hugh jackson. They were they were flying high. They won played well for a while there. And what did they win two games in a row thing, Atlanta and Cincinnati before reality came back to take action against Houston? There's still not a good team. But they've got some pieces on the defensive side. And I think we've seen enough from Baker now where you realize okay, he's he's he's the real deal. I know the timing's not great for that. Because he threw what three picks last week. But overall you look at his season eighteen touchdowns ten interceptions. Sixty three percent completion percentage. Ninety one quarterback rating as a rookie on the Browns. That's pretty good. And you just watch him play. You see he has he has the elusive it factor. And then. There's some similarities between he and in Rogers in a little bit of the moxie they have. But I think Baker is a little bit more transparent about it. Which I find. Appealing. So that leads to a pretty natural question. You know, if you had asked this before the year, people would say, you're crazy like which job would you rather have the Browns are the Packers? Who would you rather coach Aaron Rodgers or Baker Mayfield? But now that's a legitimate question. No fewer coach looking for your big opportunity. Would you rather? 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